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High School Lifting program

Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:56 am
Off season for high school basketball team. They are lifting 4 mornings a week Mon-Thur.
Everyday they are lifting heavy and at least 2 leg exercises each morning. I don’t know enough about programs but sure seems like that’s a bit much, maybe not. After about 6 weeks couple guys started having a few injuries. Maybe I’m behind the times lol. Any thoughts?
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7439 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 12:17 pm to
Yeah dial it back. Heavy lifting 4 days in a row won't give them any time to recover. Give them some rest days between lifts. Prioritze technique first, especially with the freshmen. Focus on rotational exercises and explosive movements
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7072 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 12:25 pm to
Forgot to mention this is with the schools strength and conditioning coach so I have zero say in the matter. Just never heard of no rest days or some sort of split program.
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:07 pm to
Yeah, your son and his pussy teammates should stop lifting for sure.

Replace their weight room time with a steady dose of Fortnite and some sugary snacks.

They will win state for sure!

*Stop being a pussy helicopter dad and let his coaches coach as long as no one dies.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:22 pm to
I’d need to see their exact programming to form a true opinion. Jeff Nippard has a good video on YouTube about doing full body training 5 days a week. Obviously killing yourself each day would be detrimental, but the S&C coach hopefully has a proper plan for them.

Ask the players this:

Are they getting 8-9 hours of sleep? Avoiding junk food? Eating enough protein? Eating enough calories with high nutrient foods? Using good form when lifting? Refraining from extra exercise when sore or fatigued?
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7072 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

Yeah, your son and his pussy teammates should stop lifting for sure.

Replace their weight room time with a steady dose of Fortnite and some sugary snacks.

They will win state for sure!

*Stop being a pussy helicopter dad and let his coaches coach as long as no one dies.



Bitch what is your fricking problem? Go to the OT with this cool take bullshite.
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7072 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

I’d need to see their exact programming to form a true opinion. Jeff Nippard has a good video on YouTube about doing full body training 5 days a week. Obviously killing yourself each day would be detrimental, but the S&C coach hopefully has a proper plan for them.



Cool thanks. I was just curious. Had never heard of any programming like that. They have to track calories and report those. I know I stress sleep at our house.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18399 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Yeah, your son and his pussy teammates should stop lifting for sure.

Replace their weight room time with a steady dose of Fortnite and some sugary snacks.

They will win state for sure!

*Stop being a pussy helicopter dad and let his coaches coach as long as no one dies.



And immediately your opinion isn’t worth a single shite. Do you know why doing heavy leg lifts four days straight is a bad thing? Do you know anything about stimulation and recovery? How about sports specific training protocols? No? Then shut the frick up.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18399 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 9:38 am to
Like someone already said, we really need to see the program before we can give you a good opinion. Are they doing heavy squats everyday? Because that’s not proper training. Injuries really shouldn’t happen, but it’s not impossible. I don’t want to just start bashing the coach and not know what his program looks like.

I train 5, sometimes 6 days per week, but I have a designed program. High school kids are novices in the gym, so training 4 days each week is not bad at all. It really boils down to the design of the program, which we don’t know.
This post was edited on 5/9/21 at 9:41 am
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 9:54 am to
Lighter weight, explode up, ride it down. They need rest!!! FORM FORM FORM!
This post was edited on 5/9/21 at 9:56 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 1:25 pm to
I would have to see the exact program to form a good opinion and in general would prefer a 2 day on 1 off 2 on for the 5 day week. But there is nothing wrong with getting it in while you can.

Lifting heavy could mean a million things. What % you calling heavy? Is that just your son saying it's heavy?

In general younger athletes can handle way more volume and intensity than you think especially if eating and sleeping correctly.

I prefer the atg method especially for basketball but in general almost every athlete at the high school last muscle mass and strength. They need that more than anything to build athleticism so lifting heavy 4 days a week is not that big of a deal. shite most HS athletes can handle lifting heavy 6 days a week if done correctly especially if rotating the lifts.

You took offense to the helicopter dad comment but in some ways you are guilty of that. But most of us are as parents, it's the nature of being a parent and wanting the best for our kids.

You can post the programming and we can give a better opinion. But best thing to do is make sure he is getting 200g protein a day snd sleeping 8 hours a night while eating in a caloric surplus. Do this those things and most things will take care of themselves.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 1:26 pm to
Oh and lifting heavy 4 days a week is better than lifting only 2 times or not lifting at all.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18399 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 2:03 pm to
It’s also the offseason, so training will be pretty intense. Or it should be.
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