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GreySkull LCI or LP?

Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Blue52
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:13 pm
I’ve talked with 777 a few times through email, been lurking here for a while. Currently 245 at 5’10 obviously need to lose body fat. What is the best path forward for me? Standard LP with linebacker focus or LCI? Current lifts are probably 1 rep max bench 265ish I lift without a spotter so I don’t know exactly on this one. Press 165, been doing a few LCI style workouts and hit 245x20 on the squat and I would say deadlift max is 405 but haven’t tested it in a few months. I have ran a couple ppsa plans with training maxes of 250 bench, 335 squat and 335 deadlift then used 90% of those for my training numbers. Thanks guys
Posted by Blue52
Member since May 2023
12 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:25 pm to
Started at 270 two years ago got down to 230 and had a knee injury during the winter seems to finally be right again and ready to push. Last couple weeks I’ve been trying to eat 2200 cals and hit 200g protein, should’ve mentioned this before.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
24305 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 10:42 am to
Assuming your goal is to lose fat, I'd go with the LCI. Based on the numbers you posted, you appear to be strong already (get that press number up).

One thing I did when I was doing LCI was ignore Johnny Pain's programming for the lifting portion in favor of a traditional linear progression. Everything else I kept the same.

I'm sure you already know this, but the program will only take you so far. You're going to have to dial in your diet a bit more to see progress.

Posted by Blue52
Member since May 2023
12 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:49 am to
Yeah I will definitely have to dial the diet in. I lost a lot of motivation with the knee injury unfortunately but I’m back on the wagon now. Plan is to get to 215-220 and reevaluate.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
24305 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Yeah I will definitely have to dial the diet in. I lost a lot of motivation with the knee injury unfortunately but I’m back on the wagon now. Plan is to get to 215-220 and reevaluate.



Something else you're probably aware of, but it doesn't hurt to point out. Track your food. Most people don't realize how many calories they're taking in until they start logging their meals.

Good luck. We're all pulling for you.
Posted by Blue52
Member since May 2023
12 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:01 pm to
Thanks, I have been using myfitnesspal on and off this whole time. Recently started to keep a good log again.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37041 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:12 pm to
I like Mike’s Macros.
Stupid simple.
Posted by Blue52
Member since May 2023
12 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:24 pm to
What do you prefer about it vs the other apps? I haven't heard of that one before.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37041 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:20 am to
I find it more user-friendly. The simplicity makes it easier to navigate and save food and drinks I eat on a daily basis for a quick tracking.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34726 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 12:50 pm to
at your weight

LP 2-3 days a week

no burpess

360 fat loss challenge- 360 of fasted walking a week

focus on diet and lots of walking.

you do not need anything more.
Posted by Blue52
Member since May 2023
12 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:47 pm to
No FM pushups or anything else in addition?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34726 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

No FM pushups or anything else in addition?


i mean you can but your main thing is you need to maintain strength/muscle while dropping lots and lots of weight

dont burn the candle at both ends

keep it simple, 2-3 lifting sessions per week, no more than 3 plug ins(5 exercises total) and then 360 min of fasted walking a week.

a caloric deficit with high protein.

simple as that, dont over think it and dont put too much on the body, you a big boy, dont want to hurt them joints.
Posted by Blue52
Member since May 2023
12 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:50 pm to
Probably a good point about the joints, 3 days a week LP plus a circuit of 3 exercises a decent plan then? I know it’s not ideal but the fasted walking may be tough to do sometimes unfortunately I get up at 4am. I will do my best try get it in on the weekends and after work during the week.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34726 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 3:01 pm to
dont worry about the fasted part, just get 360 min of dedicated walking. 60 min, 6 times per week.
Posted by Blue52
Member since May 2023
12 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 3:09 pm to
Thanks. I’ll give it a go.
Posted by Blue52
Member since May 2023
12 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:56 pm to
Gave Mikes Macros a shot today, does seem like it’s easier to save common foods and I used both apps they seem to be pretty close in macros. Mikes is slightly higher on protein for some reason but not enough to matter. 234 vs 248.
Posted by Blue52
Member since May 2023
12 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:38 pm to
Quick update guys, ended up going with the LP. Down about 7lbs so far and strength is up. Last press workout was 142.5x5,5,8. Working on it Barney.
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