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Posted on 1/14/19 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 6:11 pm to
I didn't speak in absolutes and as I said you won't build much if any. Certainly everyone is different and some can build some muscle, but it won't be much. Certainly you can achieve great body composition and look like a different person though. And certainly you can build strength especially through neural adaptations. Also once fat adapted most studies show no or very little performance decreases if volume is low.

I'm not gonna argue though, if keto is working to help you achieve your goals certainly use it. I personally use it.

But here are four studies that it is very hard to build muscle on keto. But again if it works for your goals, awesome.


Vargas, S., et al., Efficacy of ketogenic diet on body composition during resistance training in trained men: a randomized controlled trial. J Int Soc Sports Nutr, 2018. 15(1): p. 31.

Kephart, W.C., et al., The Three-Month Effects of a Ketogenic Diet on Body Composition, Blood Parameters, and Performance Metrics in CrossFit Trainees: A Pilot Study. Sports, 2018. 6(1): p. 1.

Cholewa, J.M., Newmire, D.E., Zanchi, N.E., Carbohydrate Restriction: Friend or Foe of Resistance-Based Exercise Performance? Nutrition, 2018. [Epub ahead of print].

Green, D.A., et al., A Low-Carbohydrate Ketogenic Diet Reduces Body Weight Without Compromising Performance in Powerlifting and Olympic Weightlifting Athletes. J Strength Cond Res, 2018. [Epub ahead of print]
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3835 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:22 am to
quote:

Mine seems to refuse to read lower than 13% when I pass that threshold. I've had a lot more luck tracking bf% past that point with a 5 point caliper test


Yeh mine is similar. Now that I'm below 15% it pretty much bounces around between 11-15 seemingly at the whim of the weather.

But I have a feeling this fella isn't pushing sub-teen level body fat % right now.

Looks like this thread has been poisoned by keto. RIP
Posted by FatMan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2071 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:22 am to
Funny, I read through the articles and mentions nothing about mTor...

I though you had human studies stating mTor could not be triggered in ketosis??

Also, all the articles suggest keto is optimal for fat loss and lean muscle retention, so thanks for adding these to the keto cult repertoire.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:29 am to
I know what the articles say. And I specifically mentioned the benefits.
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