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Can anyone on this board enlighten me on sarms?
Posted on 4/12/20 at 9:29 am
Posted on 4/12/20 at 9:29 am
So my roommate has started taking sarms I believe he’s taking 3 different bottles and he’s been harping on me to try it with him for the past month but idk it sounds awfully lot like steroids. All I know it’s supposed to enhance your gains but also you have to take test afterwards and anything that suppresses natural test seems like a no no to me. Am I right to be a little apprehensive or am I worrying for nothing and should just try it?
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 10:31 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Essentially steroids without most of the side effects, still requires a post cycle therapy.
You are being apprehensive for a reason.
You are being apprehensive for a reason.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 11:03 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Am I right to be a little apprehensive or am I worrying for nothing and should just try it?
I don’t know much about sarms, but in my experience if you’re already apprehensive about putting something into your body you certainly shouldn’t “just try it”
Posted on 4/12/20 at 11:17 am to lsu777
frick anything that messes with natural hormone function.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 11:39 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
I will never advise anyone to take any kind of PEDs. That’s just me. If you ever feel tempted, do thorough research. Know what you’re doing before you mess with anything.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:38 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
First off, whoever told you to take Test after using SARMs has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. That would just prolong the suppression of your natural Test production. I would honestly love to hear the reasoning. That being said, SARMs are basically low risk, low reward. You might put on an extra pound or two but the fact that nobody knows the long term effects of them seems like a deal breaker to me. If you do decide to take them, do your due diligence and actually research the shite beforehand. I'm always amazed at how many people will inject themselves with whatever and have absolutely no idea what they're doing. That's my two cents.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 9:19 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
You wanna tell us what he’s taking so we can actually offer some intelligent insight?
Posted on 4/12/20 at 9:34 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Real juice has a more data from human trials available which helps when considering return on investment or risk/reward profiles.
Most SARMS are experimental substances and have a lack of available data to determine efficacy and safety profiles. Many of them have been shown to cause cancer.
If you're going to do it, just go all in and use the real stuff. Just be sure to work with a doctor to keep all your levels in check during the cycle and post cycle recovery.
Or better yet, don't frick with your natural hormones. It's usually not worth it.
Most SARMS are experimental substances and have a lack of available data to determine efficacy and safety profiles. Many of them have been shown to cause cancer.
If you're going to do it, just go all in and use the real stuff. Just be sure to work with a doctor to keep all your levels in check during the cycle and post cycle recovery.
Or better yet, don't frick with your natural hormones. It's usually not worth it.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:55 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
3 different bottles?
Lmao he went to 5 star nutrition and spent $300 on junk didn’t he.
Lmao he went to 5 star nutrition and spent $300 on junk didn’t he.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:33 am to transcend
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Many of them have been shown to cause cancer.
This one's not exactly true. A couple years ago I was looking into Cardarine and remembered reading this same claim. The more I read into it though it turns out the way they ran this test was by giving lab rats insanely high doses, far beyond what any person would even approach taking, they gave it to them their entire lifespan, and ultimately the number of rats that had cancer was so low that they couldn't prove the cancer didn't just happen naturally. Agree with everything else you said though.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 7:22 am to lattin1
Most SARMS are touted as having fewer side effects compared to AAS. The problem is that there is not a ton of data on these substances yet, so I would question their claims. Additionally, they are much more expensive than most AAS while providing a decreased benefit. And finally, I have read a lot of fake "suppliers" of SARMS are essentially selling cheaper prohormones and labeling them as SARMS. As with anything that can affect your hormones, doing as much research up front, rather than just taking what the big guy at the gym told you is your best bet. Hopefully your buddy did his due diligence, but he likely didn't. It's typically not recommended to ever jump into these sorts of things by taking multiple compounds at once.
TLDR: SARMS can help with you goals, but AAS can do it better and cheaper. "Safety" is debatable, but is determined on how it is used.
TLDR: SARMS can help with you goals, but AAS can do it better and cheaper. "Safety" is debatable, but is determined on how it is used.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:22 am to MyNameIsInigoMontoya
Wanted to clear some things up
The cancer risk was on gw or cardine and it was at an equivalent of 76mg per day for a 200lbs person and was only in rats. A person would never take that much and GW has shown dramatic health benifits at 20mg a day. Really helps with lipid profile.
Above posters are correct in that AAS are going to be much more effective than Sarms, but Sarms can be very effectivetive if used correctly.
People are saying the side effects of Sarms are unknown....that's not exactly true. We have a couple years of blood work from people willing to be lab rats to have a damn good idea on the side effects. Same as we have on AAS atleast for the ones that were never circulated as medicine which is most of them.
All of these classes of drugs have similar effects across the body. They don't due crazy things and are pretty easy to model side effect wise based off the structure of the molecule. Now the anabolic and androgenic effects are sometimes a little harder to model.
Outside of the possible vision effects of S4, Sarms are going to have way less side effects. Lipid profile...much better with Sarms vs AAS, same with liver and kidney profiles.
Now I say all of that shite though and I would still say AAS is a better choice in the long run just due to overall effectiveness.
Science bio is who you should use if you go the sarms route.
Why don't you post your goals and what you wanna do and we can make recommendations. Personally I don't suggest you go the route. Take it from someone that is on trt for life from something besides using steroids, taking a shot or two a week for the rest of your life fricking sucks. If you start messing with your hormones, that is very much where you could end up. I been on TRT for 5+ years now and it fricking sucks major arse!!!
The cancer risk was on gw or cardine and it was at an equivalent of 76mg per day for a 200lbs person and was only in rats. A person would never take that much and GW has shown dramatic health benifits at 20mg a day. Really helps with lipid profile.
Above posters are correct in that AAS are going to be much more effective than Sarms, but Sarms can be very effectivetive if used correctly.
People are saying the side effects of Sarms are unknown....that's not exactly true. We have a couple years of blood work from people willing to be lab rats to have a damn good idea on the side effects. Same as we have on AAS atleast for the ones that were never circulated as medicine which is most of them.
All of these classes of drugs have similar effects across the body. They don't due crazy things and are pretty easy to model side effect wise based off the structure of the molecule. Now the anabolic and androgenic effects are sometimes a little harder to model.
Outside of the possible vision effects of S4, Sarms are going to have way less side effects. Lipid profile...much better with Sarms vs AAS, same with liver and kidney profiles.
Now I say all of that shite though and I would still say AAS is a better choice in the long run just due to overall effectiveness.
Science bio is who you should use if you go the sarms route.
Why don't you post your goals and what you wanna do and we can make recommendations. Personally I don't suggest you go the route. Take it from someone that is on trt for life from something besides using steroids, taking a shot or two a week for the rest of your life fricking sucks. If you start messing with your hormones, that is very much where you could end up. I been on TRT for 5+ years now and it fricking sucks major arse!!!
Posted on 4/14/20 at 10:32 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
SARMs are the ibuprofen to steroids' oxycodone.
Motrin and oxy are both effective pain relievers, but oxy is a whole other level of seriousness. Opiates are more effective but you're very likely to experience side effects and you really need to be careful with dosage and how long you're on them.
Yeah, there's small chance of Motrin messing you up really bad but it's very well tolerated by the vast majority of people with no negative consequences. But it's also not going to reduce your pain like oxy.
Motrin and oxy are both effective pain relievers, but oxy is a whole other level of seriousness. Opiates are more effective but you're very likely to experience side effects and you really need to be careful with dosage and how long you're on them.
Yeah, there's small chance of Motrin messing you up really bad but it's very well tolerated by the vast majority of people with no negative consequences. But it's also not going to reduce your pain like oxy.
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