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BJJ Strength Training?

Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:50 pm
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:50 pm
My son and I just started BJJ this past week. For anyone that has done it for a long period of time, what lifts did you focus on? Currently I weigh about 170 lbs (down from 188 lbs on 1/1/21) and would like to keep cutting to get down into the 150s (I'm short at 5'5"). What would be the best way to structure my workouts (5 am) so that I'm staying strong while cutting weight and not be exhausted when I have BJJ class around 6 pm? The only lifting program that I've ever really followed was 5/3/1, so I was thinking about doing a variation on that which focuses on secondary lifts that would benefit BJJ.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4836 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 6:52 pm to
I was thinking about this recently because I'm getting more into jiu-jitsu as well. One thing I'm going to incorporate more of is isometric holds because I think that'll translate well to grappling.

Also, Nick Curson has some really good ideas in terms of training for explosion as opposed to the kinds of lifts you'd be doing in a 5-3-1 program. But I think heavy 5-3-1-type workouts are also something good to do because if you're using barbells you're going to be throwing weight around that's heavier than guys you'll be grappling with.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4836 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 6:57 pm to
How old is your son?
I think it's such a good idea to introduce him to BJJ. If he sticks with it, that will help him in so many aspects of his life.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16305 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 7:53 pm to
He is 7 and I'm 42. He has some anxiety issues due to his high level of intelligence but poor emotional control. He hasn't been diagnosed as autistic, but he definitely has some tendencies. I'm hoping this will help him overall. I've been want to do this with him for a while and now have the chance.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 8:22 pm to
Pick one of wendlers templates and roll with it. I suggest just doing krypteia or good ole fsl

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Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16305 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 8:40 pm to
Thanks
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4836 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 9:00 pm to
Hopefully y'all have a good environment/gym for this because it could help him a lot. BJJ can give him that "humble confidence" and give him comfortability in threatening circumstances as he gets older.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16305 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:45 am to
I was planning on checking out a few in the area, but I really liked this one. Last week was a trial week for me and I definitely made the right choice. It seems to have a great supportive culture. My hope is that this will help his confidence.

Lifts that I've been neglecting are BB hip thrust and BB glute bridge. I'm going to rotate those back in this week.

I'm stronger than most think, so that has helped me some so far. But going against someone with skill, I'm fricked, which is to be expected at this stage. I wrestled for 1 year in high school and was terrible, only won 1 match. But it at least gives me a base for understanding leverage, I can start from my feet, and shoot a little.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:11 am to
quote:

He is 7 and I'm 42. He has some anxiety issues due to his high level of intelligence but poor emotional control. He hasn't been diagnosed as autistic, but he definitely has some tendencies.


My son is just like yours but he was 11 when I started him in BJJ. If I've only made 1 good decision as a dad, getting him into BJJ would be it. He also does boxing lessons 2-3 times a month. He's very book smart, non athletic, not good at all grasping practical hands on type learning, and BJJ has been unbelievable with his confidence and athleticism.

I'm a few years younger than you at 39 but I'm considering getting into the boxing classes, not sparring or anything. Not sure I wanna do BJJ myself, got some guys I work with big into it that I supervise and I don't want my arse getting kicked by them, one is mid to late 20s and a purple belt.
Posted by steve123
Member since Jul 2011
1303 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:07 am to
Sorry if I missed it but which one did you choose? I’m looking at getting both of my sons (9 and 7) started this summer and trying to settle on a gym. Thanks!
Posted by marinetowgunner
Madisonville
Member since Oct 2017
2 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Sorry if I missed it but which one did you choose? I’m looking at getting both of my sons (9 and 7) started this summer and trying to settle on a gym. Thanks!


I'd reccomend JM Modern if they are taking new ppl.

I've always felt at home there and enjoyed the vibe when visiting.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4836 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:59 pm to
If you're more comfortable on your feet with leverage and you want to make up for that skill gap while you're improving -- JUDO!
That's another skill set to learn, but it can give you an edge on guys who are better on the ground.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16305 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:22 pm to
We live in north Arlington, TX. We are enrolled at Sloth Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in Euless. It's about 15 mins from my house.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16305 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:24 pm to
One of my coworkers does Judo, but the place she attends is in Fort Worth and I just don't have the time to do anything else. But it is something I've looked into.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 4:25 pm
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4836 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:54 pm to
Your son may not realize how beneficial learning jiu-jitsu can be. As it was put in an Ancient Egyptian Proverb, "An answer brings no illumination unless the question has matured to a point where it gives rise to this answer which thus becomes its fruit." But I think he's lucky to get an introduction to the movement patterns at such a young age.

I just left a Walmart and watched two guys almost fight on their way out. It turned out to be just a lot of yelling and bluster, but you never know what some lunatic will do or when...
Posted by Bawwitdabaw
Member since Dec 2020
546 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:00 pm to
Brown belt here. 10+ years of training. When I was younger I would do kettlebell training. Swings, cleans, presses etc. It built muscle but kept the cardio which for grappling cardio is going to be better for you in the long run.

I’m closer to 40 now and I haven’t touched a weight in about 5 years. I train 4-5 times a week and after awhile it adds up. Getter older isn’t helping either.

The one thing that helped me more than the weights was Yoga. Increased flexibility and some increase in strength though not nearly as much as weight lifting.

If you want to do this for the long haul, be sure to watch your diet, take rest days, and be sure to get plenty of sleep. Rest days will save your body. Sometimes I’ll take 3-4 days off just to heal back up and I come back better.

Tap early and tap often. Welcome to jujitsu. The best thing I ever did was walk into that first gym. I’ll be doing this till I’m below the ground.
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