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Beta Blockers and/or Metformin for anti-aging?
Posted on 1/5/22 at 8:07 am
Posted on 1/5/22 at 8:07 am
1st, I want to ask the board’s opinion on beta blockers. I have had a really high resting heart rate for the past year or so. I’m not fat, but some injuries the past few years have prevented me from exercising as much as I used to, and not nearly as much as I need to.
Feeling better and gonna try to slowly work back into it. One of my problems is that, as a former athlete and dedicated lifter and runner until I started having problems with my feet and shoulders in my mid-30s, I only knew 1 way to train—hard. And my mind doesn’t want to realize that I’m not in my 20s anymore, I’m in my 40s, so I wind up overtraining, getting injured, and having to quit for a few months before starting the cycle back over.
Anyway, I have high blood pressure that’s been under control with medication for about 10 years—almost always around or lower than 120/80. Something changed last year, and anyway, I’m checking my BP much more often and noticed my resting heart rate seems to always be 90-100. I don’t like that—I’m pretty sure it used to be in the low 60s when I was in shape.
So I looked up medications to lower resting heart rate and beta blockers came up. And I remember a thread about them either on here or the OT before this board’s inception. It seemed to be pretty mixed as to who recommended them and who didn’t. But one comment that really stood out was from a doctor who said that “if every adult over 40 would take beta blockers, we would significantly reduced heart disease.” I’m paraphrasing, but the aggressive endorsement of them by a doctor really stood out. What do you guys think?
2nd, I read and watch a lot of YouTube videos about anti-aging or increasing health span. My favorites in this arena are Dr. Petter Attia and everybody’s favorite, Dr.‘Rhonda Patrick. I don’t know if it was either of them, but I’ve seen more than once people saying that the diabetes medicine Metformin may be the best anti-aging drug on the market. They suggested everyone either should be or one day will be on it for anti-aging, to prevent diseases. I’m not sure if you have to have diabetes to get the is prescribed, but wondered what you guys thought of this?
(Sorry for the long arse post, but I’m seeing my PCP tomorrow and want to talk to him about these, but want to be armed with as much real world info as possible going in. Tia.
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Feeling better and gonna try to slowly work back into it. One of my problems is that, as a former athlete and dedicated lifter and runner until I started having problems with my feet and shoulders in my mid-30s, I only knew 1 way to train—hard. And my mind doesn’t want to realize that I’m not in my 20s anymore, I’m in my 40s, so I wind up overtraining, getting injured, and having to quit for a few months before starting the cycle back over.
Anyway, I have high blood pressure that’s been under control with medication for about 10 years—almost always around or lower than 120/80. Something changed last year, and anyway, I’m checking my BP much more often and noticed my resting heart rate seems to always be 90-100. I don’t like that—I’m pretty sure it used to be in the low 60s when I was in shape.
So I looked up medications to lower resting heart rate and beta blockers came up. And I remember a thread about them either on here or the OT before this board’s inception. It seemed to be pretty mixed as to who recommended them and who didn’t. But one comment that really stood out was from a doctor who said that “if every adult over 40 would take beta blockers, we would significantly reduced heart disease.” I’m paraphrasing, but the aggressive endorsement of them by a doctor really stood out. What do you guys think?
2nd, I read and watch a lot of YouTube videos about anti-aging or increasing health span. My favorites in this arena are Dr. Petter Attia and everybody’s favorite, Dr.‘Rhonda Patrick. I don’t know if it was either of them, but I’ve seen more than once people saying that the diabetes medicine Metformin may be the best anti-aging drug on the market. They suggested everyone either should be or one day will be on it for anti-aging, to prevent diseases. I’m not sure if you have to have diabetes to get the is prescribed, but wondered what you guys thought of this?
(Sorry for the long arse post, but I’m seeing my PCP tomorrow and want to talk to him about these, but want to be armed with as much real world info as possible going in. Tia.
)
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 8:26 am to Hot Carl
Anything that blocks you from being a beta would be good to take.
As for the Metformin, I have no idea
As for the Metformin, I have no idea
Posted on 1/5/22 at 8:37 am to gizmoflak
Tremendous contribution, sir.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 8:50 am to Hot Carl
metformin, test levels in the upper normal range and igf levels in the normal range are the best for anti-aging. but good luck with the metformin shits and good luck with the price of peptides.
as far as beta blockers...not sure. but i do feel strongly that cialis daily shows very good promise as anti aging and heart preserving drug.
now none of these matter in your case. the number 1 anti aging thing you can do is sleep 8 hours every night.
number 2 is getting your diet in order. for many your age that should include much higher amounts of protein, good fats and a much lower carb intake than the standard american diet. doesnt mean you need to eat keto but your diet shouldnt consist of 3 bowls of frosted flakes in the morning and little debbie zebra cakes as your snacks either.
number 3 thing for anti aging is relative strength. you gain this by lifting or performing calisthenics or a combo.
number 4 for anti aging is walking. plenty of studies show that taking an average of 8k steps a day makes a big difference in how long you live.
in your case i highly suggest you start walking and start doing pushups, prisoner squats, chins. and get back to lifting eventually and follow a specific program that is minimilist in nature so you do not go overboard. also understand good warms ups so you can build your shoulder back up.
good luck and post if you need specific advice.
as far as beta blockers...not sure. but i do feel strongly that cialis daily shows very good promise as anti aging and heart preserving drug.
now none of these matter in your case. the number 1 anti aging thing you can do is sleep 8 hours every night.
number 2 is getting your diet in order. for many your age that should include much higher amounts of protein, good fats and a much lower carb intake than the standard american diet. doesnt mean you need to eat keto but your diet shouldnt consist of 3 bowls of frosted flakes in the morning and little debbie zebra cakes as your snacks either.
number 3 thing for anti aging is relative strength. you gain this by lifting or performing calisthenics or a combo.
number 4 for anti aging is walking. plenty of studies show that taking an average of 8k steps a day makes a big difference in how long you live.
in your case i highly suggest you start walking and start doing pushups, prisoner squats, chins. and get back to lifting eventually and follow a specific program that is minimilist in nature so you do not go overboard. also understand good warms ups so you can build your shoulder back up.
good luck and post if you need specific advice.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:07 am to lsu777
Thanks for the advice. I do eat like shite for the most part. It’s hard for me to eat right when I’m not working out. 2 changes I need to make immediately. And I wish I could sleep 8 hours. I know how important it is. I’ve never been a good sleeper. It sucks.
You’re right, I do have to build my shoulders back up. I had my 2nd labrum repair in August of ‘19. Changed jobs in December and went 3 months without insurance (and PT). During the lockdowns, I bought a 20 pound weighted vest and started walking around my neighborhood for an hour a day. Lot of hills—it was a great workout. I was eventually sprinting up the hills and doing a 1 minute sprint every 5 minutes or so. I felt great. Was doing light shoulder except used too. Had built up strength. Then one day I was playing basketball with my son, and after both my foot and shoulder were fricked up again. Nothing traumatic, just pain that made what I had been doing almost impossible. Lost every gain I’d made. Super discouraging.
You’re right, I do have to build my shoulders back up. I had my 2nd labrum repair in August of ‘19. Changed jobs in December and went 3 months without insurance (and PT). During the lockdowns, I bought a 20 pound weighted vest and started walking around my neighborhood for an hour a day. Lot of hills—it was a great workout. I was eventually sprinting up the hills and doing a 1 minute sprint every 5 minutes or so. I felt great. Was doing light shoulder except used too. Had built up strength. Then one day I was playing basketball with my son, and after both my foot and shoulder were fricked up again. Nothing traumatic, just pain that made what I had been doing almost impossible. Lost every gain I’d made. Super discouraging.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:23 am to Hot Carl
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And I wish I could sleep 8 hours. I know how important it is. I’ve never been a good sleeper. It sucks.
try melatonin
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I do eat like shite for the most part.
biggest change you can make
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You’re right, I do have to build my shoulders back up. I had my 2nd labrum repair in August of ‘19. Changed jobs in December and went 3 months without insurance (and PT). During the lockdowns, I bought a 20 pound weighted vest and started walking around my neighborhood for an hour a day. Lot of hills—it was a great workout. I was eventually sprinting up the hills and doing a 1 minute sprint every 5 minutes or so. I felt great. Was doing light shoulder except used too. Had built up strength. Then one day I was playing basketball with my son, and after both my foot and shoulder were fricked up again. Nothing traumatic, just pain that made what I had been doing almost impossible. Lost every gain I’d made. Super discouraging.
first thing you need to do, get a brooms stick and start doing 50 shoulder dislocates a day. and order a mini band from elitefts. 50 pull aparts and 50 vertical Y to T's a day. also start doing lying YWT iso holds daily.
eventually you can start adding in face pulls to rotation.
when you go back to lifting, this should be part of your warm up every time. no lifitng more than 3x per week and no more than an hour and 15 min including extensive warm up. you would really benefit from a program like ageless athlete.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:25 am to Hot Carl
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I’ve never been a good sleeper
Get on magnesium. I take 500mg nightly.
If your shits turn to liquid you’re taking to much. 250-500mg is about right for most.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 5:58 am to Hot Carl
Theoretically since beta blockers slow your heart rate it is conceivable that they might prolong aging but again, theoretically. Im not aware of any study showing that. Also slowing your heart rate means slowing your metabolism so if you are eating poorly and taking beta blockers you are looking at weight gain.
As for metformin, Im unaware of any anti-aging properties but I am aware of the above referenced "metformin shits" that accompany it. Expect a solid month where you cant trust a fart, cough excessively, sneeze, or in some cases even leave the house. A big obstacle for many diabetics who start on it.
As for metformin, Im unaware of any anti-aging properties but I am aware of the above referenced "metformin shits" that accompany it. Expect a solid month where you cant trust a fart, cough excessively, sneeze, or in some cases even leave the house. A big obstacle for many diabetics who start on it.
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