re: Best/cleanest whey protein isolate powder

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Not saying this definitely applies to this poster, but reminds me of the people out there that claim a lot of “weird” sounding ingredients are bad for you because they saw it on some article. Without having any knowledge on what those ingredients actually are

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These are not "Ingredients"

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Gum Acacia, Stevia). Other Flavoring: Flavoring (Natural and Artificial Flavoring and Coloring, Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose, Modified Food Starch, Silicon Dioxide, Maltodextrin).

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They are ADDITIVES that are awful. You might has well go and drink a Coke Zero with all the artificial fake ingredients that are in it. How do people on a fitness board not understand this? When a person is asking for the cleanest Whey Isolate they are asking for something that doesn't have a bunch of fake and artificial ADDITIVES to them. Hence the word 'clean'.

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I'm looking at my Transparent Labs Whey Isolate (Vanilla) bottle right now. These are the Ingredients:

Grass Fed Whey Protein Isolate, natural flavor, sodium chloride, stevia. That's it. No other shite that your hero Dante is putting into his Protein that he is having 'tested'. Who cares if he is having it 'tested' if his flavored protein is loaded with a bunch of artificial and fake additives? Why are you lying about this? It's really bizarre.

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tell me what the natural flavors are...and i didnt lie, i specifically said the unflavored version of TN. and every flavored product is going to have these so called additives. the so called natural flavors are just extracts in alcohol. stevia has no health benifits over any other of the sugar substitutes.

do you have a study on how coke zero is bad for you are any of these things?

you keep laughing about it but you dont have shite as far as studies go. zero zilch and all the studies show the opposite of what you are saying.

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No because I'm well aware of all the shite he has done in the past to ruin bodybuilding and fitness and peoples health. From "blasting and cruising" to "extreme stretching" to telling people to eat 4 cans a day of Chef Boyardee Ravioli to "get big" and ruining women from his awful drug and diet advice. No, I'm not shocked this clown has now pivoted to trying to correct all the frick ups he caused.

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if you were around then you would know the following

1) dante has said the blast cruise advice was simply to try and get people to stop using so much on that specific message board and it was his most regretted advice ever because it was very very specific for that message board.

2) the diet he posted, he did so with a very specific qualifier that he was having a hard time gaining weight at the time due to not being able to get enough calories in and that is not how he normally had people eat.

3) DC training was and is about health but also taking bodybuilding to the extreme and getting the person from point A to point B as fast as possible

4) extreme stretching or loaded stretching has proven to be extremely effective in building muscle. you keep saying it ruined people without one shred of evidence. thats like saying knees over toes guy is dumb because people skipped the progression and hurt themselves.

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I was on all the boards 20 years ago when he was spewing this stuff. His methods of Bodybuilding is NOT healthy. The people he preps are NOT healthy. His version of Bodybuilding is not 'healthy'. He and others like him ruined the sport. It's a joke and a laughingstock now. The guys look like circus freaks experiments gone wrong.

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i was on the boards then and still am. i was on Intense muscle when it first came about.

and you keep saying Dante is the exact opposite of health.....have you read cycle for pennies? because its the exact opposite message you keep repeating.

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You are a low T soy boy that needs synthetic testosterone and is on tRT so you try to play some expert on a message forum. You don't know shite.

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yea thats it. you are the dumb mother fricker that says coke zero is bad for you. but yea im the dumb low t soy boy.

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You won't know about any of this because you likely were still playing with Legos at the time.

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yep thats it

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Jason Mueller

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you mean shawn, founder of anabolic extreme?? cause thats his real name and yea im sure it was dante. not the going to jail for selling GHB and other shite he did in the 90s mainly stemming from depression that came from losing his brother in iraq.

but he is still alive and rich as frick btw, he did stupid good in crypto and him and dante are still friends.

so wtf are you talking about? How did Dante kill a guy who isnt dead, but in fact is very rich? a guy who was a successful bodybuilder in his own right.


Im done with the thread....i think its pretty clear you are into just throwing things out without any scientific backing(in fact science shows opposite) and are not into having a rational discussion.

and why is it all the douchebags have SMU as their team?

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These are not "Ingredients"

quote: Gum Acacia, Stevia). Other Flavoring: Flavoring (Natural and Artificial Flavoring and Coloring, Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose, Modified Food Starch, Silicon Dioxide, Maltodextrin).

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So you don’t really know why they’re bad do you? You’re one of those types. Even when you first replied in this thread, it was “just look at the label”. It can be helpful to know what is or isn’t bad.

For example the FDA found no evidence that sucralose (Splenda) causes cancer or neurological issues like some feared. It (like stevia) might cause issues with gut bacteria but that study was done in very large amounts. It should only be consumed in small amounts just like regular sugar.

Same for maltodrexin. It might not be good for people with gluten allergies, Crohn’s disease, or diabetes. But those people have to be careful of anything they eat. For everyone else it’s fine in small amounts just like sugar. It might even be in some of the foods you eat (scary!) because it’s so commonly used.

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They are ADDITIVES that are awful.
When a person is asking for the cleanest Whey Isolate they are asking for something that doesn't have a bunch of fake and artificial ADDITIVES to them. Hence the word 'clean'.

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Brings me to another thing, they’re are additives for FLAVORS. There are unflavored versions which don’t have any of this if you’re worried. And OP said he doesn’t care about flavor or taste. So suggesting an unflavored version perfectly answers the question.

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so wtf are you talking about? How did Dante kill a guy who isnt dead, but in fact is very rich? a guy who was a successful bodybuilder in his own right.

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I said basically killed. The guy had a torn shoulder, a torn bicep or tricep (or both) and the last picture I saw of him he looked like a cancer patient. Looked awful. And Jason Mueller was a fat bloated frick who would always talk about competing but never did. You know why? Because he was a fat frick who was permabulking using Dante's horrific advice. He was a junkie. Calling him a 'bodybuilder' is laughable. The Jason Mueller's of the world never compete or get in any kind of decent shape. Ever. You know why? Because they can't. They have muscle dysmorphia and walk around like bloated pigs who are 30% bodyfat and think they are 'big'. They mentally can't allow themselves to get down to a shredded physique because then they wouldn't be 'big' anymore. You ever wonder why guys like Mueller and Trevor Smith etc and even Dante always wear long sleeves and clothing where you can't see what they really looked like? Its a mental illness.

If Dante is your hero and it sounds like he is you wouldn't know science if it hit you in the face. The guy is a slimy snake oil salesman. He's a poor mans Dave Palumbo. A guy that was part of the cartel that has ruined bodybuilding and fitness. I'm not surprised one bit if he has pivoted to now trying to correct all the shite he did to people. That's what snake oil salesman do.

You have continually lied in this thread and are giving bad advice and are denying simple facts about additives in protein supplements. Some people don't want all that shite in their body just like I don't want to inject some shite that some guy mixed up in his bathroom or kitchen sink in my body either but people do it anyway. That isn't healthy.

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show me the study that shows coke zero is bad for you.

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None of these things are good for you:

carbonated water, caramel color, phosphoric acid, aspartame, potassium benzoate, natural flavors, potassium citrate (or sodium citrate), acesulfame potassium

Research tells us that few food and beverage items requiring that much processing could ever be objectively classified as healthy or good for you. We've got years and years worth of data on what processed foods, 'sodas', etc. do to you. They are poison. Look at the obesity rates. Look at the cancer rates. Look at American testosterone levels compared to other countries. What do we have in abundance that many of other places do not? What changed from 1960 to now in the American diet? When were preservatives, additives, etc. introduced in mass? For sure you aren't this stupid? This doesn't even take into account plastics - things like bottles, microwave dinner containers etc. What is causing all this?

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Are any of them really bad for you in the small quantities you are drinking?

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People drink liters of this stuff a week. It's poison.

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Apparently the person who asked for the cleanest whey isolate does. Then, a bunch of 'experts' gave him bad advice. Welp

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Lay off the roids