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Athlean-X Maxx Shred

Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:03 am
Posted by bayou85
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Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:03 am
Anyone done it?

Anyone have preview of what its like?
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
3792 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:17 am to
I got access to the Inferno program but never ran it. It looks needlessly complicated and requires a lot of equipment my small gym doesn't have. I like Jeff's videos, but for a guy who makes fun of bodybuilding magazines and all their crazy amount of exercises, his programs sure don't follow that line of thinking.





Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
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Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:22 am to
Lol ole chicken leg Jeff
Posted by bayou85
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Member since Sep 2016
11086 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:43 am to
quote:

ol ole chicken leg Jeff


What?
Posted by The Funnie Five
Bluffington
Member since Feb 2019
3404 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:22 am to
I did all 12 weeks of it, thought it was a pretty good program. Ask me any questions you want.

On week 10 of AX2 right now and not the biggest fan of it. Will be doing max size after this
Posted by bayou85
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Member since Sep 2016
11086 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:31 am to
quote:

On week 10 of AX2 right now and not the biggest fan of it


I did AX1 and found it incredibly boring.

How hard is it compared to AX1?
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
10473 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:12 pm to
I’m doing it right now. I did x1 before it. Way more cardio based than x-1. It’s pretty tough honestly
Posted by The Funnie Five
Bluffington
Member since Feb 2019
3404 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

I did AX1 and found it incredibly boring.

How hard is it compared to AX1?


Didn't do AX1 but my issue with AX2 is that every single week and every single day is different. You're always doing new things, new lifts, etc. every week so its hard to know if you are making any progress. I feel like some of the weeks are dumb, and I get nothing out of it. Some of the weeks are good but the last 2 weeks I have done I feel like they have been wastes of time.

That's what I liked about Max Shred, its divided into 3 months. Each month you do the same things every week, just with a small addition or twist in each successive week, but overall what you are doing is the same. So you know you are making progress and are getting better. Also its much tougher than AX2. Almost every shred workout will kick your arse, but there are days on AX2 where I feel like I didn't even break a sweat.

AX2 I feel is more toward becoming more athletic rather than stronger or bigger or leaner. Max Shred is all about becoming leaner, and it worked good for me. Had very defined abs when I was done.
Posted by The Funnie Five
Bluffington
Member since Feb 2019
3404 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

It’s pretty tough honestly


It's very tough, I know each day going into a shred workout I'd be dreading it. And in the middle of each shred workout I am like "shite, I am not even halfway done with this?!?!"

Definitely kicks your arse. Which is a good thing. You want to have your arse kicked. Too many men these days are afraid to hurt and work in the gym. They'd rather just do low volume 3x5 Jim Wendler bullshite so they can feel good about themselves.

That's my main issue with AX2. A lot of workouts I feel like I wasn't worked hard enough or wasted my time. And a lot of the workouts in AX2 are structured where its hard to push yourself.
Posted by bayou85
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11086 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:00 pm to
Thank you
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37942 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

They'd rather just do low volume 3x5 Jim Wendler bullshite so they can feel good about themselves.


Or it could be they actually like to train not just workout to feel like they did something especially some bullshite Jeff c came up with.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
10473 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 7:12 am to
See I’m a little different than you. I liked x1 because of the variety. I was a little disappointed going into the second week of shred seeing the same exercises again
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
3792 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

They'd rather just do low volume 3x5 Jim Wendler bull shite


5/3/1 is a periodized way of structuring your big 4 lifts. The rest is up to the lifter to program and Jim assumes the people running it have more than a room temp IQ. People also argue that this is a program for advanced lifters, yet Wendler has used it successfully with high school kids. However, calling it low volume bullshite that's for pussies who are too afraid to work hard is ignorant.

There are nearly limitless templates across Jim's 4 books and blogs. Let's take a look at one - 5sPRO, Boring But Strong. Here's an example a lifter with a training max of 405 lbs. in the deadlift.

Warm up by doing several jumps, throws, and mobility work (box jumps, medicine ball throws, and foam rolling)

305 for 1x5
345 for 1x5
385 for 1x5
245 for 10x5

After that you then go do 50-100 reps of a Push/Pull/Leg (or core) exercise.

DB Press (Push): 55s for 100 reps
Chins (Pull): 100 reps
Core: 100 incline crunches

Finally, you go do some conditioning (hard or easy depending on the day). We'll assume it's a hard conditioning day.

Hill Sprints 20 min.

I don't care how you spin it, but that's a damn good day's work for the average lifter. Calling it a pussy low volume program is completely dishonest. There are certainly ways to customize it to be a low volume, low frequency, low intensity program for people rehabbing an injury or older lifters but that's probably less than 5% of the templates Jim provides.

Another example from Jim's blog is called Building the Monolith. Here's Monday for a lifter with a 315 squat and 135 OHP.

SQUAT
220 for 1x5
250 for 1x5
285 for 5x5

OHP
95 for 1x5
110 for 1x5
120 for 3x5
95 for 1xAMRAP

Chins: 100 reps
Face Pulls: 100 reps
Dips: 100-200 reps

Conditioning: 20 min of pushing the prowler or hill sprints

If you can get off the toilet or reach something on the top shelf with any semblance of grace the next day after this, then you're a better man than most.

Program accounts for very little in overall fitness (commitment and nutrition are far more important). There's hard work being by powerlifters, bodybuilders, CrossFitters, distance runners, even yoga practitioners. There are many different ways to kick your own arse when it comes to fitness and 5/3/1 is no doubt among them.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37942 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:10 pm to
Wasting your time man, he is one of those guys who just thinks if you aren't dying at the end of a workout and you don't do 50 different things then you aren't working out.

News to him though is those that follow 531 aren't working out, they are training and there is a distinct difference.
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