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re: Anyone recently give up sugar?

Posted on 2/14/20 at 5:21 am to
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/14/20 at 5:21 am to
Banana isn’t the only fruit....
My breakfast this morning two handfuls of walnuts, a banana, two oranges and an apple along with 60g protein shake.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 5:39 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58551 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 6:41 am to
He didn’t say it was. It was illustrative.

People get really worked up about their fruit. It’s why I don’t bother anymore.
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1055 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 8:53 am to
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Bananas just are not good for you.


That is a pretty big blanket statement. Bananas might not be good for YOU in your situation with your goals, but may not be bad for other people and their situations and current goals.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18330 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 8:58 am to
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And the micronutrients you listed are both a)not very bioavailable in a high-carb environment and b)not needed in as high a dose in low-carb environments. Bananas just are not good for you.



I understand your point about the sugar content of a banana; however, what sources do you have to support that nutrients are not bioavailable in bananas?

A quick Google search presents studies that claim the opposite. Bananas are preferred because of the ability for their nutrients to be absorbed and utilized in the body.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58551 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 9:57 am to
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I understand your point about the sugar content of a banana; however, what sources do you have to support that nutrients are not bioavailable in bananas?

A quick Google search presents studies that claim the opposite. Bananas are preferred because of the ability for their nutrients to be absorbed and utilized in the body.



He didn't say that they weren't bioavailable. He said not very bioavailable.
Posted by Tpayne99
Da Bayou
Member since Jan 2019
1028 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 11:09 am to
Mo Jeaux likes that Vitamin D!
Posted by jessica75
Member since Feb 2020
8 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 7:10 pm to
I have avoided all kinds of sugar and sugar-related foods 1 year ago. Sugar is essential for health but excessive sugar is harmful. I take a very small amount of sugar and I am healthy with it.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15475 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 3:02 am to
What is with you people saying fruits are terrible?

I’d wager most are fat and can’t lose the weight because they’re constantly drinking beer and stuffing their faces after their 5-day per week keto diet.

Blueberries with oatmeal
Banana and whey shake before workout
Ripped af
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33349 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 11:27 am to
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My point is that saying the “healthiness” of food is determined by the amount of sugar and/or carbs it has, which is essentially what you are saying, is just false, especially if you are active/lifting weights.
And I'm saying you are wrong.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33349 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 11:28 am to
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Nobody and I mean nobody ever gained weight from eating too much fruit
Not true. But also, weight isn't the only relevant metric.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33349 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 11:29 am to
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Banana isn’t the only fruit....
No shite.

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My breakfast this morning two handfuls of walnuts, a banana, two oranges and an apple along with 60g protein shake.
That's quite a sugar bomb for a meal you probably shouldn't even be having in the first place.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33349 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 11:30 am to
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That is a pretty big blanket statement. Bananas might not be good for YOU in your situation with your goals, but may not be bad for other people and their situations and current goals.
You could say the same thing for doughnuts then. Nothing changes the fact that sugar is not good for you and bananas are almost nothing but sugar.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33349 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 11:35 am to
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Sugar is essential for health
This is true, but not in the way you meant it. There is literally zero requirement for ingested sugar for the human body to thrive. In fact, it would likely be optimal (although unrealistic in today's world.)

But your brain absolutely requires glucose to function. It's vital. Essential. So vital and essential, that your body will create the ~4g daily all on its own in order to meet that need.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33349 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 11:37 am to
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What is with you people saying fruits are terrible?
I'm not sure anyone said that. What they said was: be honest about what fruit actually is, which is just a form of dessert. It's extremely high in sugar - completely out of proportion to whatever minor micronutrient intake might accompany its ingestion.

If you like fruit, eat it. Just don't fool yourself about it being healthful.

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I’d wager most are fat and can’t lose the weight because they’re constantly drinking beer and stuffing their faces after their 5-day per week keto diet.
I'd wager you're being a dickhead.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33349 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 11:50 am to
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I understand your point about the sugar content of a banana; however, what sources do you have to support that nutrients are not bioavailable in bananas?
On top of the fact that the bio-avialability of micronutrients from plants is poor in general vs in meats, the bio-availability of micronutrients in a carb-rich environment is generally poor. Also, a high-carb environment creates a "need" for more micronutrients than in a low-carb environment.

Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18330 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 2:24 pm to
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On top of the fact that the bio-avialability of micronutrients from plants is poor in general vs in meats, the bio-availability of micronutrients in a carb-rich environment is generally poor. Also, a high-carb environment creates a "need" for more micronutrients than in a low-carb environment.


You’re repeating the same information. What sources back up these claims?
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/15/20 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58551 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 3:07 pm to
Really? You people actually believe that your body absorbs nutrients from plants the same as, or more easily than, from animal-based foods?
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20698 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 4:06 pm to
I eat fruit but I only eat

Strawberries
Blueberries
Raspberries
Blackberries

Which are all keto friendly. Every now and then I’ll eat a peach, banana, or orange for a change of pace but only for a day or 2 then it’s back to berry fruits.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6200 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 4:35 pm to
5’10” 170lbs....
that breakfast is full of natural vitamins as well.
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 4:37 pm
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