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Any info on peptides?

Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:28 pm
Posted by NotoriousFSU
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:28 pm
Listened to a podcast by Ben Greenfield over the weekend and the central focus of which was peptides. They seem pretty interesting, but I didn't really get a good understanding of them on the first listen. Planning to listen to it over again, but also figured the H/F Board might be a good place for some insight as well. Please let me know any thoughts and opinions y'all have about peptides. Thanks!
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:03 pm to
Which are you interested in?

Best advice I can give you is read datbtrue's archive on Reddit

LINK
Posted by NotoriousFSU
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:20 pm to
I'm not too sure tbh. I've only heard about them briefly, but they sound intriguing. That looks like a good resource the thanks.
Posted by Andychapman13
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:34 pm to
I know BPC-157, injected directly into the injury(even if it’s a tendon or ligament) with TB-500 works wonders on the recovery time on an injury.
All of the hgh peptides are garbage though compared to real hgh.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 1:23 pm to
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All of the hgh peptides are garbage though compared to real hgh.


Not from the blood work I have seen.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:23 pm to
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All of the hgh peptides are garbage though compared to real hgh.



Maybe compared to exogenous hgh, but I’ve been using Ipamorelin and cjc 1295 (no dac) for about 1.5 years on and off and there is marked improvement in sleep duration and quality when I am on it. This alone leads to better health, more energy and looking younger. I am not interested in synthetic hgh, so this along with squats and eating right is my only option.
Posted by Andychapman13
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:35 am to
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Not from the blood work I have seen.

Have you done real hgh and had the bloodwork on it to compare it to? Legit question, not talking shite. If so, you could have me interested. I just know for the price of those peptides compared to the price of real growth the math just doesn’t add up for me.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 11:38 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:08 pm to
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I know BPC-157, injected directly into the injury(even if it’s a tendon or ligament) with TB-500 works wonders on the recovery time on an injury.


Who would do this? A doctor? If so, which kind? And would it help post op recovery? I had SLAP repair last week, and I asked the surgeon’s P.A. if hgh injected in my shoulder may help with recovery. She said they don’t do that. I said “That’s fair. But hypothetically, let’s say someone—not me, of course—were to have a labrum repair and was able to procure some hgh. Would it be beneficial for recovery to inject that shoulder? Could it be dangerous? All hypothetically, of course.”

She looked at me like she was about to call the police and said, “Let’s get the doctor over here...” I stopped her and said no need. I was just fooling about.
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:14 pm to
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Who would do this? A doctor? If so, which kind? And would it help post op recovery? I had SLAP repair last week, and I asked the surgeon’s P.A. if hgh injected in my shoulder may help with recovery. She said they don’t do that. I said “That’s fair. But hypothetically, let’s say someone—not me, of course—were to have a labrum repair and was able to procure some hgh. Would it be beneficial for recovery to inject that shoulder? Could it be dangerous? All hypothetically, of course.” 


Do you have a desire to conduct experiments? Most methods of buying this tend to specify that this is designed for experimentation and certainly NOT to use as a sports supplement. You frequently aren't required to wink when saying that.

Your PA/doc's attitude towards GH is one of the things that turns me off on medicine. GH will assist recovery and has fairly predictable and controllable sides in healthy people, but few docs consider that.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:49 pm to
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Who would do this? A doctor? If so, which kind? And would it help post op recovery? I had SLAP repair last week, and I asked the surgeon’s P.A. if hgh injected in my shoulder may help with recovery. She said they don’t do that. I said “That’s fair. But hypothetically, let’s say someone—not me, of course—were to have a labrum repair and was able to procure some hgh. Would it be beneficial for recovery to inject that shoulder? Could it be dangerous? All hypothetically, of course.”

Hgh works wonders on the recovery of a SLAP post surgery or helps minimize the damage without surgery. I had a SLAP tear on my right shoulder repaired and my time to full recovery was 3 months instead of 6. Left shoulder has a SLAP tear. Hgh and some TB500, along with a cortisone shot from the doc has that injury unnoticed 2 years later.
I used the 157 on knee, soleus, and patella injuries. But did not inject into my labrum.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:53 pm to
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Your PA/doc's attitude towards GH is one of the things that turns me off on medicine. GH will assist recovery and has fairly predictable and controllable sides in healthy people, but few docs consider that.

That’s because the medical industry’s thrives off of people being ailed, not repaired unfortunately. I don’t put much faith in them unless a surgery is the only option.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:59 pm to
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That’s because the medical industry’s thrives off of people being ailed, not repaired unfortunately. I don’t put much faith in them unless a surgery is the only option.


I'm a little less negative. All things equal, a natural recovery is preferable bc it minimizes potential side effects.

That said, medicine tends to discount quality of life in these situations. Powerlifting and strongman are hobbies of mine that I enjoy. I'd rather pursue things I enjoy than live in a bubble to maximize my lifespan.

Yeah, you accumulate wear and tear, but life does that. More aggressive recovery treatment lets you get back to fun hobbies like lifting sooner, and that in itself has a value a lot of docs discount.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:30 pm to
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Do you have a desire to conduct experiments?


Not on myself. I don’t mind wasting money, but I don’t want to frick my shoulder up any more than it already is. If there is a MD on the cutting edge and will at least have a conversation with me about alternative and/or supplemental treatments, send me their way. I asked about stem cells and prp and she shut that shite down with the quickness too.



Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Not on myself. 


I wasn't being fully serious. All sites that sell this have a gigantic disclaimer about research purposes only because of the gray market issue.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:39 pm to
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Hgh works wonders on the recovery of a SLAP post surgery or helps minimize the damage without surgery. I had a SLAP tear on my right shoulder repaired and my time to full recovery was 3 months instead of 6. Left shoulder has a SLAP tear. Hgh and some TB500, along with a cortisone shot from the doc has that injury unnoticed 2 years later.
I used the 157 on knee, soleus, and patella injuries. But did not inject into my labrum.


I am very interested in how you did this. My right shoulder was too far gone—surgery was inevitable. Tore my left labrum too, but because it’s not my dominant arm/hand, I haven’t accumulated the years of wear/tear that I have on my right. Would love to not have to have that one cut on.

I went down to Lafayette a few years ago and had Dr. Bond(?) do PRP on both shoulders. There were 3 different types of procedures with Stem Cell being the best/most expensive. I went with the middle one—couldn’t afford the stem
Cells. He did my left shoulder and said it looked good on the ultrasound, should work. Got to my right one and said, “damn, this one’s fricking wrecked.” Not sure “fricking wrecked” is the proper medical term, but it got the point across.

Neither one really “took,” but may have bought me some time. But I hope my left one is salvageable enough with alternative medicine to at least avoid getting cut on for a couple more decades.
Posted by Andychapman13
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:06 pm to
How I did what? Got the injuries or got the supplements?
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:15 pm to
supplements
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:13 pm to
Peptides aren’t really illegal. Maxim Peptides is a good site.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

I know BPC-157, injected directly into the injury(even if it’s a tendon or ligament) with TB-500 works wonders on the recovery time on an injury.


Are you talking about a medical professional injection or a DIY injection? I’ve given myself plenty of shots (mainly B-12), but am wondering if you are alluding to that or a Rejuvame type place.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:21 pm to
Dude he is talking about giving yourself one. You will not find a doctor to give you this, period.
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