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Your takeaway has a huge effect on your swing

Posted on 1/12/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 8:56 am
The last lesson I had pro said the main thing I had to work on was my takeaway, it was way too inside. After that when I would play I thought I was taking it back correctly but the results were not there.

I sat in front of a mirror last two weeks and tried to hit the middle guy in the picture every time I took the club back with the clubhead covering my hands. It was hard at first but after a bunch of mirror work it started to become second nature



Played this weekend and the results were dramatic, much better golf all round after learning to hit that spot on the takeaway. Ive been inside my whole life and you really need mirror work to nail this spot, cant do it on your own.

Shaun Webb at Athletic Motion Golf has a bunch of videos on how important the takeaway is, here is a good one

LINK

Takeaway sets the motion for the whole swing, you have to nail it to be successful baws.

If your takeaway sucks your golf is gonna suck.





Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:04 am to
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Your takeaway has a huge effect on your swing

While not entirely wrong, there's no perfect takeaway or swing.....see Trevino, Nicklaus, Furyk & Miller Barber.

The simplest way to correct your takeaway is to NOT have one....check out the no-takeaway swing.
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:21 am to
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Takeaway sets the motion for the whole swing, you have to nail it to be successful baws.

If your takeaway sucks your golf is gonna suck.



Yes, it's important, but what's perfect for someone depends on matchups later. Matt Wolff is closer to the guy on the right than the middle.

Inside takeaway is going to be worse than the other 2. There's a ton of successful guys with an outside takeaway, and they go steep to shallow. Inside is going more than likely be a steepening at the top and an over the top slicing action.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:25 am to
right, as long as you get it back on plane you can roll with whatever, but that middle guy gets the club on plane immediately and you don't have to manipulate it coming down which was huge for me.

If you take it away outside like Wolff you are going to have to manipulate it coming down to get it back on plane.
Posted by geauxfortwo
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:29 am to
Been working on the same things you are and noticed a big difference, just havent gotten it ingrained yet where i can really go at a ball, everything is still in the 3/4 swing phase. just talking about regular golfers here but inside takeaways lead to over the top swings a lot of the time. its hard to get the club back on the correct plane.

I struggle with it and if its a day where the timing is bad it can be all over the place.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:32 am to
Yea you gotta go slow with it at first, almost in slow motion with a mirror with a lot of reps. I took my phone and put it behind me on the range and would make a swing and I would feel like I nailed the move and the recording would show I was inside.

You cannot rely on feel to get better, you need video or a mirror to ingrain it.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:44 am to
Golf is hard as shite because this



feels almost just like this



but they are massively different and give you extremely different outcomes, yet they feel almost exactly the same.
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:53 am to
If you incorporate the JT pre-shot takeaway, it will probably help you as well.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:20 am to
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If you incorporate the JT pre-shot takeaway, it will probably help you as well.


I started doing that this summer, it has helped a bunch.

My putting has also improved since I started calling myself a fa**ot when I miss
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 10:21 am
Posted by geauxfortwo
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Yea you gotta go slow with it at first, almost in slow motion with a mirror with a lot of reps. I took my phone and put it behind me on the range and would make a swing and I would feel like I nailed the move and the recording would show I was inside.

You cannot rely on feel to get better, you need video or a mirror to ingrain it



Yep, same here. I use my phone a lot and my swings that feel perfect look like a folded up lawn chair. It’s a process but will pay off in long run.
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:23 am to
Im fighting the inside takeaway big time. I finally put my swing on video. Its inside and over the top. Its not horrible, but can lead to some REALLY bad things. I feel like I am either guy 1 or 3. I dont know how to get into that sweet spot.
Posted by CajunMAP
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:26 am to
Arnold Palmer said the most important part of the golf swing was the first foot you took the club back. Set everything in motion properly.
Posted by geauxfortwo
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:31 am to
quote:


Im fighting the inside takeaway big time. I finally put my swing on video. Its inside and over the top. Its not horrible, but can lead to some REALLY bad things. I feel like I am either guy 1 or 3. I dont know how to get into that sweet spot


Same here, funny part is I rarely hit a bad slice. My miss is a straight pull or a hook, trying to straighten things out at 41 and after 15 years playing is interesting to say the least.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:39 am to
Same here, my miss is a massive hook.

I take it too far inside but instead of coming over the top I keep the club inside and hit a massive IN to OUT shot. I got so sick of this hook bullshite I was determined to fix it and for me after getting on video and pressure plates with a pro the takeaway is the trick, but its gonna take a shite load of reps to ingrain into second nature.

Ill record my swing and my mind thinks Ive 100% hit the sweet spot on the takeaway and the fricker is dead shut inside. Only way to kill it for good is mirror work.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:12 am to
Tiger explaining this perfectly here

LINK
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Same here, funny part is I rarely hit a bad slice. My miss is a straight pull or a hook


I used to slice, now my miss is a bad hook. It’s the same problem though. It’s a weird game. I would rather the hook. At least you can roll punch hooks when it’s going bad.
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:16 pm to
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Same here, funny part is I rarely hit a bad slice. My miss is a straight pull or a hook


Your face is closed to your path for the hook, square to your path for the pull. So you're likely taking it inside with a shut face, then maintaining that relationship. Slicers leave the face wide open to the path.
Posted by geauxfortwo
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:55 pm to
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Your face is closed to your path for the hook, square to your path for the pull. So you're likely taking it inside with a shut face, then maintaining that relationship. Slicers leave the face wide open to the path.




yep, I had (have) a very handsy swing. When I release the club like your supposed to I hit the ball left. I would hold onto it and could hit it straight
Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:31 pm to
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So you're likely taking it inside with a shut face, then maintaining that relationship. Slicers leave the face wide open to the path.



Step one to fixing a slice is having your miss be a hook/pull because at least your closing the club face. Now you just have to fix the club path.
Posted by ever43
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

Same here, my miss is a massive hook.


I struggle with this too. I started to take lessons in March to fix it and my coach changed my grip as well as constant work on takeaway and keeping my wrists cocked. The best tool he gave me is an old arse club that is hinged. When the club is taken back wrong, the head "breaks." Same thing when the writs drop at the top. I have practiced my takeaway every day, and it has been fixed. It took 2 months of daily use to get my muscle memory built.

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