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re: When do you decide to get new irons?

Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:51 am to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
39267 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:51 am to
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irons has changed enough in the last 15-20 years that a new 7 iron, for example, would have the same loft as an old 6 iron, translating to longer iron shots. Seems like a sneaky way to sell people on your brand's irons adding distance.


People always say this, and yes part of the lofts is getting people to think they hit it further. But the main reason lofts have been strengthened is because technology is good enough to obtain the same amount of forgiveness at a lower loft.

You'll get the same forgiveness with your "7 iron" at 28 deg that you used to at 33 deg
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:54 am to
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But the main reason lofts have been strengthened is because technology is good enough to obtain the same amount of forgiveness at a lower loft.


Ahhh ok. That makes more sense.

Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
2404 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:56 am to
Again, I’m not saying they’re arent better deals or cheaper clubs. But you can’t buy that set of irons and shaft combo that i fit into and get anywhere near what you paid. You aren’t comparing apples to apples. Project X shafts come stock options on most sets. The X7 absolutely does not. You’re adding about 40-50 bucks more per club when adding a non stock option.
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 8:57 am
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2235 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 9:00 am to
My point was getting fitted and buying new clubs is 100% the best thing you can do. But it also takes about $2k. If you don't have that to spend on clubs, which I don't, it isn't really a question.
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
2404 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 9:02 am to
That is an accurate statement unfortunately. Probably why my wife said no for over 5 years. It def isn’t cheap. My point is, like the OP, i kept my previous irons for 10 years. If I’m doing that, then it makes spending 2 k on irons much easier on me. People are spending 500-700 on drivers and using them for 2 years. You get way more value out of your irons.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
39267 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 9:06 am to
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Project X shafts come stock options on most sets. The X7 absolutely does not.


I paid for my shafts and they're more expensive than X7's. P770's are also more expensive per club on line the the mixunos. You should have paid like $225 per club max probably less.
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 9:07 am
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
2404 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 9:14 am to
If you paid for those shafts then you got ripped off. They’re a stock option in Taylor made irons.

LINK

Again, I’m not sure why you are debating me on this. Please price out the irons i got and then come back and tell me you can get them for under 1900. It ain’t happening. In Buddha’s defense, he was cheaper than the other 2 options by like 50 bucks. But i also wasn’t getting to keep the shafts that mizuno sent. But with this order I’m getting x7 shafts and the stock x100 shafts to keep that i had put in from mizuno.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
39267 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 9:29 am to
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If you paid for those shafts then you got ripped off. They’re a stock option in Taylor made irons.


I bought just the heads and just the shafts from the builder. Two line items because he's a builder, not a club salesman. Paid about $205/iron out the door.

I got 4-lw for less than you paid for 8 clubs so I definitely didn't get screwed.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
10458 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 3:41 pm to
I am the wrong guy to ask that question to.

I am a huge Club Ho. When a new model hits, I am all over it.

I have only owned one set in the past 30 years that I can say that the grooves were worn down.
Posted by BRbornandraised
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2013
588 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:03 pm to
If you are playing well with them why change? I have some ping ISI's and ping eye 2's that I switch between. Both are 20+ years old. As long as the grooves arent worn down and you are hitting them well, I see no reason to change.
Posted by Coomdaddy
KY
Member since Aug 2017
421 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 9:58 pm to
Normally when I get drunk.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
11191 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:17 am to
When my wife leaves town.
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3744 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:01 pm to
The answer to this question is the same as the answer to “when do you get a new girlfriend?”

A — When something prettier, newer, and exciting comes along. Newer always feels better at least for a little while.

That being said, there are a few sets I regret letting go.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7226 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:35 pm to
When you got hit new sets, bring one of your own clubs and know the loft on it. Then hit the corresponding loft club for that new set. Don't just hit the same club number and rave about how you gained fifteen yards when the club you hit is really lofted way less.
Posted by ReeseWee
Geismar, LA
Member since May 2019
564 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:21 pm to
I'm glad you brought the loft thing up. I just received Sub 70 demos in a 9 and 6 irons. Tomorrow I will compare them to my 8 and 5 irons Cobra.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2235 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:43 am to
Which Sun 70s did you go with?
Posted by Bigryno7
Nashville
Member since Jun 2009
1543 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:18 pm to
True to an extent. They are also definitely just juicing some clubs. Especially on the game improvement side.

I’m old school in my thought process. I need consistency, don’t care about length. There was a time when some club makers were still using standard lofts. But it seems they all have to play the game now.

It’s a dick measuring contest that the average golfer doesn’t care what the loft is, they just want their 7 iron flying 10 yards further so they can tell Bob they used a 7iron on that hole when Bob said he used 5 iron.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
72339 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:57 pm to
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they just want their 7 iron flying 10 yards further so they can tell Bob they used a 7iron on that hole when Bob said he used 5 iron.


True in the cynical side, but the guy hitting his older 5 iron 170 starts to have some issues with gapping when he gets into the 200+ yard range, whereas his buddy can stretch his irons closer to his wood distances without sacrificing accuracy and possibly has flexibility in which clubs are in his bag (eg an extra wedge rather than a hybrid). Plus most people are more confident with a 7 iron in their hand.

Strengthening lofts has an end game (at some point stronger lofts won't make sense), so I don't see it as some runaway distance gimmick. It's good for leveling the playing field among amateurs of varying skill levels. A 5 handicap with 90mph clubhead speed on his 7 iron isn't going to want/need a 28* loft. But a 20 with 70mph speed is able to close the gap without limiting club options or sacrificing control.

You always have the option to get your clubs in more "old school" lofts. Advanced tech allowing for stronger iron lofting for shorter hitters is a great thing for the amateur game, imo.
Posted by BatonRougeBuckeye
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1930 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:49 pm to
For me I decided to get new irons when I realized the ping eye 2’s I was playing were hand-me-downs in 1987.
Posted by ReeseWee
Geismar, LA
Member since May 2019
564 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:22 pm to
739, I need all the forgiveness I can get. So far I like so I may get a set.
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