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Posted on 7/24/26 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
10820 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 8:28 pm to
On my home course, 9 of 18 holes has OB in play. 5 on the right, 2 on the left, 2 on both sides. Not that far off the fairways or greens either, so definitely in play. There also isn't a hole that doesn't have at least one hazard, water or wetland on at least one side, 16 of 18 holes there is trouble on both sides.

Fairways are fairly generous but there is not much rough before you run into hazards and the rough is basically designed by slope or undulation to direct your ball into the wetlands/water or OB.

You have to be straight off the tee. I'd be in favor of OB not being so punitive.
Posted by Eye dentist
Member since Oct 2013
732 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 5:05 am to
I’ve always been in favor of playing OB like a lateral hazard that can’t be hit out of. Certainly would speed up play.
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5324 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 9:08 am to
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I’ve always been in favor of playing OB like a lateral hazard that can’t be hit out of. Certainly would speed up play.


They put a local rule in that does that. Drop in the fairway hitting 4
This post was edited on 7/25/26 at 11:08 am
Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
6193 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 9:23 am to
Neighborhood golf courses made OB out of control. My club has OB on 25 of the 27 holes and it’s legit in play on at least 23 of them. There are quite a few holes with OB on both sides. The original golf courses had almost no surrounding human developments. Even st Andrews only has OB on like the last 4 holes on the right and I’m guessing it was only 18 back in the day but they kept building more and more stuff on the right side of the course.
My biggest gripe with OB is that it slows up play with hitting provisionals all the time or going back to re-tee. I think there should be a new type of boundary created that doesn’t allow you to play it where it lies (like hazards) but allows a stroke penalty and a radial relief…basically no closer to the hole but as far away from the boundary as you want to go. So you can swing it 25 yards away and drop in the fairway hitting 3. This would speed things up and still be a penalty.
Posted by farad
Member since Dec 2013
12664 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 11:20 am to
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there are a lot of bad rules in golf


I'm still saying that Tiger should not have been able to recruit enough fans to move a 2000 lb bolder so he could play a shot in the 99 Phoenix Open...
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
21470 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 12:12 pm to
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new type of boundary created that doesn’t allow you to play it where it lies (like hazards) but allows a stroke penalty and a radial relief…basically no closer to the hole but as far away from the boundary as you want to go. So you can swing it 25 yards away and drop in the fairway hitting 3. This would speed things up and still be a penalty.


They sort of did this a few years ago.

You can go to the edge of the fairway, drop, but you are laying 3, hitting 4.

I think that’s why most people proceed with a provisional when in doubt.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
10203 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 12:57 pm to
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How is out of bounds a bad rule?


Guys like Ben Crenshaw and other layers and course designers hate the OB rule and think it's too penal.


There is no fundamental reason why going out of bounds is worse than any other hazard; indeed, depending on what is to be found the other side of the OB line, it is often possible at least to retrieve the ball, something which is usually impossible from a water hazard and frequently also the case from vegetation like gorse, heather or rough. No, the issue is the penalty for going out of bounds, the infamous stroke and distance.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
21470 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 1:24 pm to
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There is no fundamental reason why going out of bounds is worse than any other hazard; indeed, depending on what is to be found the other side of the OB line,


All I know is my ball speed is elite IF the golf ball is headed toward a hazard or boundary.

For instance, if I’m 170 from a pond in front of the green and choose to lay up with a 150 club, I will almost always take a very relaxed swing with good tempo that finds virgin metal in the dead center of the face and travels in the air 172.
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