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Rory changes his mind yet again. Now wants to work with LIV and in favor of WR Points
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:25 pm
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Rory may want to go back and check his own receipts
You actually don't have to meet the criteria as the Tour alone has nearly double digit events getting points that don't. Even the article goes on to say that's not true.
We'll see how Monahan repsonds now that the Price of Ponte Vedra wants to work with LIV even though Monohan said last month he wasn't interested in that.
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“If Dustin Johnson is somehow 100th in the world it’s not an accurate reflection of where he is in the game,’’ McIlroy told reporters at the Dunhill Links Championship
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"I've always said there's a time and place where everyone involved needs to sit down and work together,’’ McIlroy said.
Rory may want to go back and check his own receipts
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There’s criteria there, everyone knows what they are and if they want to pivot to meet the criteria they can. I’ve not a problem with them getting ranking points at all but you have to meet the criteria. If you don’t it’s harder to justify why you should have them.’’
You actually don't have to meet the criteria as the Tour alone has nearly double digit events getting points that don't. Even the article goes on to say that's not true.
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Part of the OWGR’s mandate, however, also says that an organization can be granted points without meeting the criteria—or that it can be denied even if it does.
We'll see how Monahan repsonds now that the Price of Ponte Vedra wants to work with LIV even though Monohan said last month he wasn't interested in that.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 1:29 pm
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:48 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Didn’t he make similar statements at the open that the they needed to work together? I know originally he was pretty against but changed course back in July which is understandable.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:26 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
He will make another complete 180 after the conference call with Monihan & Tiger that I’m sure will be scheduled soon.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:40 pm to Sherman Klump
I thought he said they could never come back?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:44 pm to AlxTgr
At the open? Nah.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:28 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Yeah damn that Rory for making reasonable and logical points
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:01 pm to LMfan
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Yeah damn that Rory for making reasonable and logical points
Which time? He's gone back and forth like a dozen times
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:28 pm to LMfan
LIV fans are taking on the personality of Greg Norman that it’s LIV and nothing else. Ultimately this is what should and probably will happen as soon as the children like Greg Norman and Jay Monohan get out of the way.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:21 pm to Swagga
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Ultimately this is what should and probably will happen as soon as the children like Greg Norman and Jay Monohan get out of the way.
Seemingly all that needs to happen is the Tour needs to lift the ban no?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:43 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I don’t care what side you’re on. We all just want to see the best compete in the majors, mainly rory and other great players. They know it’s not a major if all the best players aren’t there. Something has to give.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 6:36 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Not at all. The Tour shouldn’t take any player that is contractually obligated to play 14-18 weeks somewhere else. It makes no sense
Seemingly all that needs to happen is the Tour needs to lift the ban no?
Now if LIV wants to be sensible as well they will allow the players to be independent contractors like they so want to be and choose their schedules for both
Posted on 9/29/22 at 7:56 am to lsupride87
quote:Like they do with a lot of European tour guys?
The Tour shouldn’t take any player that is contractually obligated to play 14-18 weeks somewhere else. It makes no sense
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:18 am to ell_13
The European tour isn’t taking current full time card members of the pga tour are they?
Look, you need to try and be somewhat neutral. LIV is taking pga tour members, and then tryng to take more, and then requiring them to play 14 tournaments, with that number very likely to go up
If they allow that with no concession from LIV then that ends the pga tour. You understand that right?
You wanting the pga tour to just happily allow that is insane. Once it was known the LIV players are contractually obligated to play all their tournaments everyone should have understood why the pga tour can’t just let players leave under that format
Look, you need to try and be somewhat neutral. LIV is taking pga tour members, and then tryng to take more, and then requiring them to play 14 tournaments, with that number very likely to go up
If they allow that with no concession from LIV then that ends the pga tour. You understand that right?
You wanting the pga tour to just happily allow that is insane. Once it was known the LIV players are contractually obligated to play all their tournaments everyone should have understood why the pga tour can’t just let players leave under that format
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:19 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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He's gone back and forth like a dozen times
Well the situation has evolved a bit over the last year and each time it does he gets asked about it every time he plays a tournament.
Don't think he's really said or done anything worthy of scrutiny here.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:27 am to LMfan
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Well the situation has evolved a bit over the last year and each time it does he gets asked about it every time he plays a tournament.
Exactly. This is an evolving situation which means changing viewpoints.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:29 am to lsupride87
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The European tour isn’t taking current full time card members of the pga tour are they?
Yes, in recent years they have given full time PGA Tour players full status, and in some cases lifetime exemptions.
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then requiring them to play 16 tournaments, with that number very likely to go up
Link?
And it's 14
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Once it was known the LIV players are contractually obligated to play all their tournaments everyone should have understood why the pga tour can’t just let players leave under that format
LiV and some of the players approached the Tour about working together along time ago. It's extremely bizzare watching you and others trying to completely absolve the Tour, and really it's leadership, of any blame when the Genesis of the problem was 100% created by them.
Now we're to far gone and this thing has gotten too nasty for that to happen in all likelyhood, but let's not forget why
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:32 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:The cognitive dissonance to believe Greg Norman and the Saudis were the ones truly willing to negotiate and find good common ground is astounding to me
LiV and some of the players approached the Tour about working together along time ago. It's extremely bizzare watching you and others trying to completely absolve the Tour, and really it's leadership, of any blame when the Genesis of the problem was 100% created by them. Now we're to far gone and this thing has gotten too nasty for that to happen in all likelyhood, but let's not forget why
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:36 am to lsupride87
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The cognitive dissonance to believe Greg Norman and the Saudis were the ones truly willing to negotiate and find good common ground is astounding to me
Was Greg Norman even involved at that point? The original idea was to have player owned and Saudi backed fall league invitationals with huge purses that were sanctioned by the Tour. Norman came in later to my knowledge.
Not that any of that is important or anything.
Saudis bad. BBBRRRRRR *fills up gas tank, buys Chinese made knick knack while tank fills*
Posted on 9/29/22 at 11:31 am to lsupride87
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Now if LIV wants to be sensible as well they will allow the players to be independent contractors like they so want to be and choose their schedules for both
Doubt many players that move the needle would ever jump to LIV without the guaranteed contract with ridiculous money. And LIV would be a fool to ever offer such a deal without some kind of guarantee that those players play in their events. So this will never happen from a LIV standpoint even though they are the ones crying about the PGA not letting players choose which tournaments they want to play in.
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