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re: Our foursome blew up
Posted on 10/7/26 at 7:44 pm to bopper50
Posted on 10/7/26 at 7:44 pm to bopper50
That’s happening with our group too. 20+ years of playing. we are all between 60 and 70. disagreements over betting is the main culprit. Differences in ability has also been a cause with one guy in particular getting really bad at golf. Of course he is the one who wants to tell all of us what we are doing wrong. Guess it’s just human nature.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 3:41 am to mikelsu15
I’ve seen large groups fall apart due to sandbagging and vanity handicaps.
I’m a 10 this morning. I wish I was a 9, but I’ve played my way to 10.
Golfers who Sandbagger are cheating others. Vanity handicappers cheat themselves.
It’s hard to have a fair game if one 10 is a 7 and another is a 12.
Money, no matter how small the bet, changes people’s perspective.
Having a blind draw for partners helps.
The other thing I’ve noticed as I’ve aged is some golfers accept diminishing skills better than others. Father Time is undefeated.
Keeping groups playing requires some active monitoring and for everyone to enjoy playing with the group more than not playing with the group.
Occasional srableford, scramble, or shamble days might lessen the strain.
I’m a 10 this morning. I wish I was a 9, but I’ve played my way to 10.
Golfers who Sandbagger are cheating others. Vanity handicappers cheat themselves.
It’s hard to have a fair game if one 10 is a 7 and another is a 12.
Money, no matter how small the bet, changes people’s perspective.
Having a blind draw for partners helps.
The other thing I’ve noticed as I’ve aged is some golfers accept diminishing skills better than others. Father Time is undefeated.
Keeping groups playing requires some active monitoring and for everyone to enjoy playing with the group more than not playing with the group.
Occasional srableford, scramble, or shamble days might lessen the strain.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 4:40 pm to makersmark1
Tees have become a real issue with us.
Example Legislator #2 from gold on the card says 324, really closer to 300. If I hit it well I can get it to about 40 yards from the front. Teal says 288, it’s not. I need to shoot it next time to see exactly what it is but my guess is 250ish.
We have a guy who is in his 70’s, still can hit the occasional 230-240 drive, he’s playing the gold. He’s usually not too far from me. By age he could move up to Teal.
Another guy moved up, frequently I’ve been standing on that green and his ball comes bouncing up. He’s either on the upslope chipping or the front of the green.
Can’t play shamble or scramble with him. Played a shamble Wednesday, he had 7 birdies and an eagle, one of his partners had 5 birdies and an eagle. One of his partners who only shot 100 2 weeks ago because he picked up at double shot 78.
I’m struggling to find a format that works with that.
Example Legislator #2 from gold on the card says 324, really closer to 300. If I hit it well I can get it to about 40 yards from the front. Teal says 288, it’s not. I need to shoot it next time to see exactly what it is but my guess is 250ish.
We have a guy who is in his 70’s, still can hit the occasional 230-240 drive, he’s playing the gold. He’s usually not too far from me. By age he could move up to Teal.
Another guy moved up, frequently I’ve been standing on that green and his ball comes bouncing up. He’s either on the upslope chipping or the front of the green.
Can’t play shamble or scramble with him. Played a shamble Wednesday, he had 7 birdies and an eagle, one of his partners had 5 birdies and an eagle. One of his partners who only shot 100 2 weeks ago because he picked up at double shot 78.
I’m struggling to find a format that works with that.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 5:02 pm to llfshoals
quote:
By age he could move up
Tees should be about “ability” not age.
If you are still able to drive the ball a proper distance for a tee,
Base the tee on average driver distance.
He’s gaming the system using age to move up rather than ability.
I play up. I still hit 5 woods into some par 4s.
Played 9 yesterday. My par 4 approach shots were:
Pitching wedge, 3 wood(hit tree off tee)/5 wood(to 12 ft!)), 9 iron, 6 hybrid
I’ll delete the 3 wood as it was not a decent drive. The others were reasonably well struck and in play
If I’m back a tee, it’s a lot of taking head covers on and off.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 6:57 pm to makersmark1
quote:
He’s gaming the system using age to move up rather than ability.
That’s not how handicaps work
Posted on 10/9/26 at 6:19 am to llfshoals
quote:
Can’t play shamble or scramble with him.
I think the usga provides handicap allowances for these. That can help take into account the tees.
Posted on 10/9/26 at 6:48 pm to DestrehanTiger
quote:He’s about 8 shots better from Teal.
I think the usga provides handicap allowances for these. That can help take into account the tees.
Posted on 10/9/26 at 6:51 pm to makersmark1
quote:I can move up by age.
Tees should be about “ability” not age.
I’m still occasionally getting one 270 or so.
I’d be hitting 3 wood into half a dozen par 4’s on the Legislator from Teal. As in hitting it on from the tee.
The Teal is really ridiculous on Leg and Judge now.
Posted on 10/9/26 at 7:01 pm to llfshoals
Playing different tees is fun.
Some of my friends like to play what we call “Ohoopee” style where you can pick any tee for the group if you win the hole.
We limit it to 3 of any color.
It gets interesting when you are a short hitter playing the tips on a long (relatively) par 4 or a big hitter playing up at a different angle on a par 4 with a hazard on one side that you might never think about from the back tee.
Some of my friends like to play what we call “Ohoopee” style where you can pick any tee for the group if you win the hole.
We limit it to 3 of any color.
It gets interesting when you are a short hitter playing the tips on a long (relatively) par 4 or a big hitter playing up at a different angle on a par 4 with a hazard on one side that you might never think about from the back tee.
Posted on 10/9/26 at 7:46 pm to makersmark1
quote:Yep. I play them all when I’m playing by myself on Fridays.
Playing different tees is fun.
I played the teal once, had a bunch of birdies and an eagle. Drove one green with a 7 wood
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