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re: Liv and PGA to merge
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:07 am to ell_13
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:07 am to ell_13
quote:They don’t. I said the only players that matter are the designated guys. If the Tour didn’t let them know, they are going to have a shite show on their hands.
No. Way. Pride said those players don’t matter.
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:07 am to Nola1962
After reading that letter it almost sounds like LIV just bought the PGA Tour.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:08 am to lsupride87
quote:
Getting billions in funding and majority control of the board seems like a really good “out”
blood money
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:08 am to lsupride87
New CEO position paid for in Saudi blood money. Jay just wanted his piece of the pie. The immediate fall out of this will be interesting. The biggest losers in this deal are the players that stood by Jay.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:09 am to GooseCreekMafia
That’s exactly what happened. They big sucked them. Jay is the head but he’s now a Saudi lackey instead of a PGA one.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:09 am to GooseCreekMafia
From Dan
quote:Interesting. So will the fine be an amount to bet against their liv payout to make it equal to what they would have made on tour?
I’m told the guys who took the LIV money and wanna return to the PGA Tour will definitely pay a fine. Won’t be equal for every player, either
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:09 am to theone
LIV won and it took less than two years.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:11 am to WDE24
My source who happens to be Joe Burrows agent ..said that the threat of being a deemed a monopoly was figured to be the biggest reason PGA caved!
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:11 am to theone
Everyone saying jay is still in control. Let’s be real. PIF controls the money. You control the money you control the company.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:13 am to lsupride87
“Good faith, fair and objective process”
That’s going to be difficult to negotiate, but I doubt it is going to be severely punitive.
That’s going to be difficult to negotiate, but I doubt it is going to be severely punitive.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:15 am to WDE24
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:15 am to lsupride87
LIV will pay their “fines” 
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:16 am to ell_13
SVP:
So, you preach loyalty to a tour and convince guys not to take 8 and 9 figure deals based, in part, on that loyalty and, in part, on the source of the money. Then those guys find out on Twitter YOU took the very same money?
Nino Brown, “Always business, never personal.”
So, you preach loyalty to a tour and convince guys not to take 8 and 9 figure deals based, in part, on that loyalty and, in part, on the source of the money. Then those guys find out on Twitter YOU took the very same money?
Nino Brown, “Always business, never personal.”
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:18 am to ell_13
I wonder if LIV will become the new WGC.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:20 am to GooseCreekMafia
I’ve always seen LIV as the way the WGC was supposed to be. I think that’s what this ends up with.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:21 am to RedHawk
quote:
I'm wondering who caved?
Really?? On one hand you have an established product and the other was a pet project funded by guys that throw money away and get bored with things pretty easily.. Not really hard to figure that one out.. LIV was a loser no one watched and they had an opportunity to dump it.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 10:32 am
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:22 am to WDE24
It's not all that complicated. The business model for all sides simply wasn't working. LIV thought they would get all of the top 50 and a big TV deal and little pushback from the PGA and DP World tours. None of that happened. The PGA Tour got all it could get money wise from its sponsors and it wasn't near enough to compete financially with the deep pockets of LIV. The DP World Tour lost too many members to LIV. They were destroying each other; they had to merge.
This is like the Sirius and XM Satellite merger from years ago. Apart they were dying. Together they will survive.
The winners will be the LIV players. While their money will more than likely scale back to something more reasonable, they cashed in when they could. The PGA will have to do something to satisfy their players but that can be made to happen. There's gonna be a lot of complaining in the meantime, though. (Maybe this is the reason Rory stopped running his mouth the last few weeks; he knew this was coming)
The loser is Greg Norman. I think he will be the odd man out on all this. He wanted to drive the tours out of business and sold the Saudis on a false bill of goods to achieve this. The Saudis want to make money and look good. They will make their money now.
This is like the Sirius and XM Satellite merger from years ago. Apart they were dying. Together they will survive.
The winners will be the LIV players. While their money will more than likely scale back to something more reasonable, they cashed in when they could. The PGA will have to do something to satisfy their players but that can be made to happen. There's gonna be a lot of complaining in the meantime, though. (Maybe this is the reason Rory stopped running his mouth the last few weeks; he knew this was coming)
The loser is Greg Norman. I think he will be the odd man out on all this. He wanted to drive the tours out of business and sold the Saudis on a false bill of goods to achieve this. The Saudis want to make money and look good. They will make their money now.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:25 am to ell_13
quote:
SVP:
So, you preach loyalty to a tour and convince guys not to take 8 and 9 figure deals based, in part, on that loyalty and, in part, on the source of the money. Then those guys find out on Twitter YOU took the very same money?
Well said.
The fans win, I know I'm happy. A ton of players got royally screwed. There are going to be players disgusted with the Tour and JM. There are already guys saying they are frustrated because they were loyal to the tour and the PGA caved and let the players back. The PGA Tour has pie on it's face. In just one year, Saudi is essentially controlling the PGA and can use JM as a puppet.
This is wild.
Golf channel just said Brandel is going to be on here soon.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:25 am to SippyCup
quote:
Let's see the details before we start sucking off the LIV golfers.
Details??? PGA got absolutely fricked
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:26 am to bstaceyau19
quote:time will tell, but he will have been paid so much it will be hard to consider him a loser here.
The loser is Greg Norman.
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