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Investing in individual Golfers is a failing venture(besides Tiger)
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:19 am
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:19 am
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Nick Dunlap's historic win at the AmEx on Sunday drew 534K viewers on Golf Channel, up 37% from Jon Rahm's win last year (391K).
Amateur story line drew more eyes (money) than the 300m man and best player in the world. Besides Tiger, people don’t watch because of an individual. They just aren’t needle movers
Courses, historical events, etc is what brings eyes to golf. It takes someone as massive as Tiger to actually be a needle mover and worth any true guaranteed dollars or investment.
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:26 am to lsupride87
How many people in Spain can watch the Golf Channel?
Meh, Golf is a global sport, but here are numbers of viewers in US
Meh, Golf is a global sport, but here are numbers of viewers in US
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:31 am to lsupride87
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It takes someone as massive as Tiger to actually be a needle mover
And yet a relatively unknown amateur moved the needle 37%. Make up your mind..
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:31 am to lsupride87
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Amateur story line drew more eyes (money) than the 300m man and best player in the world
1st, a one time viewership doesn’t mean anything.
2nd There were big names at the top of the leader board
3rd Sam Burns was one of them. 100k could’ve been just LSU fans for all we know
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:33 am to lsupride87
Seems as if you could make this argument about any sport……..
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:35 am to LSUballs
quote:Nick Dunlap didn’t move the needle. The story of an amateur winning did
And yet a relatively unknown amateur moved the needle 37%. Make up your mind..
Any single amateur would have caused the same result viewership wise. That’s the point. The golfer doesn’t matter(sans Tiger)
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:38 am to FlockUp225
quote:I don’t disagree. I think it would be an awful investment for someone in league management to pay pat mahommes 150 million to play on an arena league/xfl team t
Seems as if you could make this argument about any sport……..
It wouldn’t help their numbers in any material way, yet the chiefs would still get great viewership
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 9:43 am
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:03 pm to lsupride87
Dunlap is now known as the only guy to win the Junior am, the am, and a pga event as an am. He did those things. The story is him. He moved the needle.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:05 pm to lsupride87
You are literally dumber than a sack of rocks. 
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:07 pm to JimTiger72
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How many people in Spain can watch the Golf Channel?
That's a blessing in disguise. SkySports Golf in Europe carries more live worldwide golf than the Golf Channel would ever dream of covering. The Golf Channel is vested in carrying the PGA's water, as if nothing else exists. In the US you have to have a PGA Tour Live subscription to see what the rest of the world sees with a basic cable subscription.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:12 pm to ell_13
quote:Any amateur, any single one, would have caused the same jump in viewership and story.
Dunlap is now known as the only guy to win the Junior am, the am, and a pga event as an am. He did those things. The story is him. He moved the needle.
Unless you think Michael Block was also the story……
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:12 pm to LsuFan_1955
Lots of golf fans not paying attention heard about Dunlap shooting 60 and leading. He tied the lowest round for an am.
Pride is basically saying that no one cares about Spieth who was driving a ton of viewership when he went on that tear early in his career without Tiger around. It was just his “story” as if that has nothing to do with him. Tiger drives the needle because of his “story” too if that’s the bar we are setting.
“It’s not Tiger as a player. It’s that he used to be so good and is still chasing Jack.”
What a dumb take.
Pride is basically saying that no one cares about Spieth who was driving a ton of viewership when he went on that tear early in his career without Tiger around. It was just his “story” as if that has nothing to do with him. Tiger drives the needle because of his “story” too if that’s the bar we are setting.
“It’s not Tiger as a player. It’s that he used to be so good and is still chasing Jack.”
What a dumb take.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:13 pm to ell_13
When Tiger decides to play any single event, viewing numbers soar
No other golfer does that. Period
Add Tiger to the Zurich, watch what happens. Nobody else will come remotely close to the results in viewership. He is the only needle mover in golf
No other golfer does that. Period
Add Tiger to the Zurich, watch what happens. Nobody else will come remotely close to the results in viewership. He is the only needle mover in golf
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:14 pm to lsupride87
You’re a goddamn walking contradiction
Your argument is that they didn’t tune into to see this crazy good am who is about to accomplish something no one else has done… it’s that they tuned in to watch this am do something no one else has done.
Your argument is that they didn’t tune into to see this crazy good am who is about to accomplish something no one else has done… it’s that they tuned in to watch this am do something no one else has done.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:15 pm to lsupride87
quote:Because of his story right? His story is all his wins and majors, his falls and rises, his dominance. If not for his “story” no one would care right?
No other golfer does that. Period
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:16 pm to ell_13
quote:I am having a hard time believing you are this stupid
Your argument is that they didn’t tune into to see this crazy good am who is about to accomplish something no one else has done… it’s that they tuned in to watch this am do something no one else has done.
People watched to see an amateur win. They didn’t care it was nick Dunlap.
Tiger woods is the only golfer where he himself moves numbers
Not Spieth, not Rory, Tiger.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:23 pm to lsupride87
By your definition it’s just Tigers story that moves the needle. He has the best story yes? It’s entertainment. Tiger himself means nothing to the viewer. It’s his history and what he can do next. You can’t say it’s this way for this player but not for this other one. Rory moves it some. Rickie being in contention again has moved it. Scheffler can move it. Rahm can move it. Tiger does move it most. Thats not some crazy epiphany. But it’s all because of their history and “story” as you put it. And it still makes them valuable to sponsors. Dunlap is valuable. His story makes it so. But that goes for everyone and especially Tiger.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:28 pm to ell_13
I am saying nobody is close to being worth any material value besides Tiger. No golfer is worth millions in guaranteed dollars besides Tiger. It’s why guaranteed large contracts paid out by an entity isn’t a viable product for golf
Giving any golfer a guaranteed contract worth millions thinking it’s going to produce actual return is insane from a product viewership/attendance return. They aren’t money makers by their own brand. Only Tiger, as an individual, is a golfer whose brand is worth millions just to play golf tournaments from a contract perspective
Giving any golfer a guaranteed contract worth millions thinking it’s going to produce actual return is insane from a product viewership/attendance return. They aren’t money makers by their own brand. Only Tiger, as an individual, is a golfer whose brand is worth millions just to play golf tournaments from a contract perspective
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:30 pm to lsupride87
quote:Oh you’re just making things up. Got it now. Carry on.
Giving any golfer a guaranteed contract worth millions thinking it’s going to produce actual return is insane from a product viewership/attendance return. They aren’t money makers by their own brand.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:43 pm to ell_13
If Jon Rahms actual value was millions in guaranteed money, viewership numbers should plummet in an event he played last year that he didn’t this year. That would show worth
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 12:44 pm
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