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re: Greg Norman said there will be no truce with the PGA Tour
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:51 pm to GeauxTigersLee
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:51 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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I don't see any way they win in court. The OWGR has criteria for eligibility and LIV doesn't meet most of them, and that was LIV Golf choice to create a format that didn't comply on multiple fronts.
OWGR gives points to 54 hole tournaments now. It gives points to limited field tourneys now. They gave exceptions and clearly their criteria is not the criteria. As evidenced by the tournaments currently receiving points.
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 5:17 pm to Tyga Woods
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He tried to be civil and co-exist with the Tour and they wouldn’t allow it to happen.
Boy you don't know Norman.
He wasn't even civil to his ex wives.
Norman thought he was going to push over Finchem and he got body slammed.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 5:31 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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The OWGR has criteria for eligibility and LIV doesn't meet most of them,
Neither to currently sanctioned events that award points
Posted on 9/18/22 at 5:32 pm to bopper50
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Boy you don't know Norman.
Norman is a douchebag, but you carrying the water of the Tour and literally every single one of its representatives like they're angels is bizarre.
Norman has some legitimate reasons to be fricking pissed at the Tour
Posted on 9/18/22 at 5:58 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Never ever said the Tour was perfect . The Tour doesn't need me to defend their product.
In my opinion. LIV currently has a lot of warts.
And it's foolish to expect the Tour to roll over and take it.
Would it hurt LIV to play some Country music sometime s instead of that weird technique music ?
In my opinion. LIV currently has a lot of warts.
And it's foolish to expect the Tour to roll over and take it.
Would it hurt LIV to play some Country music sometime s instead of that weird technique music ?
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:09 pm to bopper50
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The Tour doesn't need me to defend their product.
You blow em for pleasure?
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And it's foolish to expect the Tour to roll over and take it.
I don't expect them to. I also didn't expect them to be total fricking morons and act like 12 year old girls at a lunch table, yet here we are.
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Would it hurt LIV to play some Country music sometime s instead of that weird technique music ?
I thought you didn't watch it?
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:12 pm to tigbob
In any business you can’t let your hate cloud you business decisions. For Norman to say he’ll never work with the Tour is dumb. What if they don’t get points? What if the majors pull the plug on them? What if the networks say no thanks?
He may be the reason it dies if he’s hard headed about it.
He may be the reason it dies if he’s hard headed about it.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:17 pm to WilsonPickett
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For Norman to say he’ll never work with the Tour is dumb
The Tour has said the same exact thing.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:34 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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thought you didn't watch it?
I didn't watch it this weekend, too busy with Football to worry about golf.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:35 pm to WilsonPickett
Well said Wilson.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:46 pm to BBONDS25
quote:They have given exceptions to single events, not the entire schedule that violates not 1, but 4-5 of the core criteria.
They gave exceptions and clearly their criteria is not the criteria.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:47 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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They have given exceptions to single events, not the entire schedule that violates not 1, but 4-5 of the core criteria.
We will see. I think they win in court. I have been wrong many times before.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:01 pm to MikeD
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Agree. He may have been the guy you needed to get the players to commit and make the jump, but maybe not the guy to lead the group moving forward. That’s assuming LIV wants to integrate into the world golf community.
I think a lot of this drama could be solved if both Norman and Monahan got out the way.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:02 pm to Swagga
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think a lot of this drama could be solved if both Norman and Monahan got out the way.
Agreed. Norman initially said he wanted to partner with the PGA. Monohan scoffed. Now Norman is saying he won’t partner with them.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:16 pm to BBONDS25
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Agreed. Norman initially said he wanted to partner with the PGA. Monohan scoffed. Now Norman is saying he won’t partner with them.
The Players Tour Policy Board had a say in rejecting too.
Honestly, I don't know enough about Monohan to say whether he is a good CEO or not. Only the Players can judge his performance.
The differences are way more than just money.
The cut is one of the best things about the Tour.
Existing contracts with venues and sponsors are in play.
Both groups have the want and the right to protect their brand.
Then you have the Players themselves and their views.
Right now it seems that both parties will have to learn to coexist separately.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:19 pm to bopper50
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Right now it seems that both parties will have to learn to coexist separately.
Sadly, I think you’re correct. I hope LIV decides to go to 72 holes and a cut. There would be little argument against OWGR points at that point. I think it’s a fair compromise. And it allows for more members of LIV.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:29 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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They have given exceptions to single events, not the entire schedule that violates not 1, but 4-5 of the core criteria.
There's an 18 man hit and giggle that's not officially sanctioned by a tour that gets points. The criteria arguement is by far the worst talking point against LIV.
The Tour Championship uses a completely different leader board for God's sake. I'm not up in arms about those events getting points, such a immaterial hill to die on, but it's an absolute joke to use OWGR criteria against LIV as some sort of high ground
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:30 pm to BBONDS25
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Sadly, I think you’re correct. I hope LIV decides to go to 72 holes and a cut. There would be little argument against OWGR points at that point. I think it’s a fair compromise. And it allows for more members of LIV.
I agree with you.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:31 pm to bopper50
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Honestly, I don't know enough
100%
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Only the Players can judge his performance.
That's not true. In his own statements he mentions the Tour's partners and fans ad nauseum. Not that you actually listen to those or even knew they existed, though.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:33 pm to BBONDS25
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Sadly, I think you’re correct. I hope LIV decides to go to 72 holes and a cut. There would be little argument against OWGR points at that point. I think it’s a fair compromise. And it allows for more members of LIV.
So you want them to just be the PGA Tour? Seems counter productive. If they truly want to survive they have to differentiate the product. Is the current model what they'll end up with? I doubt it, and it's certainly not perfect, but 72 hole stroke play isn't how you best the established competition.
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