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re: Four Majors and LIV players eligibility for each 2022 thru 2024
Posted on 2/27/24 at 2:45 pm to JimTiger72
Posted on 2/27/24 at 2:45 pm to JimTiger72
Sometime the internet and social media has its positives
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:02 pm to lsupride87
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Nobody misses Gooch or thinks his lack of presence at tournaments matters
While walking Augusta National in April, none of us will stop and ask what hole Gooch is on.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:07 pm to JimTiger72
Yeah, he’s been a top 50 golfer and is obviously way better now than he was on the PGA Tour in 2020 & 2021.
I think his biggest issue is not really trying to play outside of LIV, and then when he does play, not playing as well as he has on LIV.
I think his biggest issue is not really trying to play outside of LIV, and then when he does play, not playing as well as he has on LIV.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:47 pm to Dawgsontop34
Gooch played on the PGA tour through his age 30 season. He had a total of 1 win (and it came in a fall event with a very weak field). He's played in 11 majors in his career and managed 0 top 10's.
He's playing the best golf of his career right now and getting rewarded handsomely for it from LIV. It's the path he chose and it includes consequences like not qualifying for majors. He needs to own it and stop acting like a baby about it.
It's comical to act like him missing the Master's means there should be an asterisk for the winner.
He's playing the best golf of his career right now and getting rewarded handsomely for it from LIV. It's the path he chose and it includes consequences like not qualifying for majors. He needs to own it and stop acting like a baby about it.
It's comical to act like him missing the Master's means there should be an asterisk for the winner.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:58 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:I think it’s fair to say he maybe a player that performs better without the pressure. That’s why it’s not “hating” to view his liv wins with a question. Why does he only seem to perform to a winning, or hell even a top 10 standard while on liv and not elsewhere? And is that why he chooses to simply complain and not search out events and qualifiers like so many other liv players? Garcia, a major winner, wasn’t above playing and qualifying for the US open. But Gooch is? Or does he know pressure golf isn’t when he is at his best
I think his biggest issue is not really trying to play outside of LIV, and then when he does play, not playing as well as he has on LIV.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:15 pm to lsupride87
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If liv simply decided to conform
Confirm, or else!!! OWGR mean nothing now. Everyone knows they aren’t accurate. Some of you just dont care.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:17 pm to BBONDS25
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OWGR mean nothing now.
OWGR still means something if you're trying to qualify for majors
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:20 pm to icegator337
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OWGR still means something if you're trying to qualify for majors
True. Doesn’t change the fact everyone knows they aren’t accurate. Majors cutting off their nose to spite their face. I thought y’all hated diluted fields?
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:29 pm to BBONDS25
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True. Doesn’t change the fact everyone knows they aren’t accurate. Majors cutting off their nose to spite their face. I thought y’all hated diluted fields?
Majors will adapt and give LIV players entries eventually. It'll just take bigger names than Talor Gooch missing for it to happen
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:43 pm to icegator337
Correct - people will make fun of Gooch for speaking out, but he has a right to be frustrated.
The “top 50” players should be playing in majors & due to the current state of OWGR, it seems he’s one of the few that is getting left out.
It’s something that needs to be addressed eventually, but it will take bigger names than his to fix it. Or once the PGA/PIF merger finally gets done & everything fixes itself.
From flushingitgolf:
The “top 50” players should be playing in majors & due to the current state of OWGR, it seems he’s one of the few that is getting left out.
It’s something that needs to be addressed eventually, but it will take bigger names than his to fix it. Or once the PGA/PIF merger finally gets done & everything fixes itself.
From flushingitgolf:
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While this sounds like a controversial take on the face of it, there is a big danger this will happen in the coming years. As it stands, the majority of Masters qualification can only be obtained via the PGA Tour, where a significant number of the best players in the world are literally banned. What happens when players like Bryson DeChambeau or Cameron Smith's Masters exemptions run out?
If Augusta National doesn't want to risk becoming a glorified PGA Tour signature event, with a few past champions and amateurs making up the field, they really need to look at this qualifying criteria.
It already has the weakest field of any major and it would be a shame if that slipped any further.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 5:35 pm to JimTiger72
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like Bryson DeChambeau
Zero top 20s in 7 appearances at Augusta…
Cam Smith on the other hand would be a big miss but he also has 4 more years of exemptions and would probably get other exemptions like Joaquin if he doesn’t qualify in a different manner.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 5:47 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Yes, that’s how the real world works. When you are a new entity wanting access, follow the standards. Don’t expect the standards to conform to you. This has never really been controversial. And the whining by liv doesn’t change that, it simply makes them look petulant and foolish
Confirm, or else!!
Posted on 2/27/24 at 5:55 pm to lsupride87
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Yes, that’s how the real world works.
you think the world of professional golf is anything like the “real World?” You clearly haven’t spent much time in the world of the PGA or even KF. quote:
When you are a new entity wanting access, follow the standards. Don’t expect the standards to conform to you. This has never really been controversial.
Because nobody has ever challenged the status quo. Now, a bunch of butt hurt idiots are just fine with destroying the validity of the OWGR because some players left their preferred tour.
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And the whining by liv doesn’t change that, it simply makes them look petulant and foolish
Your lack of self awareness is staggering.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:01 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Challenge it. Absolutely. But don’t whine when you KNOWINGLY CHALLENGE it and they don’t give in to you
Because nobody has ever challenged the status quo
If you cared and truly want to be a part of it, why challenge it?
quote:That would be liv. The people KNOWINGLY CHALLENGING an established system then calling corruption when that system doesn’t cave to their demands. It’s wild even a small portion of people like yourself defend it
Now, a bunch of butt hurt idiots
quote:This is so rich. Because self awareness is exactly somwothing that is lacking when you whine about others not caving to your demands
Your lack of self awareness is staggering.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:49 pm to JimTiger72
I don’t feel bad for any LIV players . They sold out. Those are the consequences.
It’ll sort itself out over time. But don’t bitch because you knew what you were doing.
It’ll sort itself out over time. But don’t bitch because you knew what you were doing.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:07 pm to lsupride87
I thought you were most upset about diluted fields. Is that not the case anymore?
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:07 pm to donRANDOMnumbers
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on’t feel bad for any LIV players . They sold out. Those are the consequences.
Agreed. But I thought the entire issue for fans was diluted fields. Is that not the case?
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:21 pm to BBONDS25
I am angry. Angry at LIV for screwing over the players and golf
And that’s exactly who LIV players should be mad at. But let’s be clear, the majors aren’t diluted. But the signature events are
And that’s exactly who LIV players should be mad at. But let’s be clear, the majors aren’t diluted. But the signature events are
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:24 pm to lsupride87
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And that’s exactly who LIV players should be mad at. But let’s be clear, the majors aren’t diluted. But the signature events are
Yikes. That’s hard to reconcile given the players that would otherwise be in the majors. Look, I don’t feel bad for the LIV guys that aren’t in majors. However, for you to claim there is no dilution is silly. Do you care about dilution or not?
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:25 pm to BBONDS25
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Agreed. But I thought the entire issue for fans was diluted fields. Is that not the case?
I hate the current state of professional golf, but I can simultaneously have 0 sympathy for Talor Gooch when it was abundantly clear what the consequences were for taking a dump truck of cash.
He got his money. He lives with the decision.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 7:26 pm
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