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BREC - Business Report
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:48 pm
Business Report Article
That's consistency.
Paging Lsu13Lsu
Ranking by play:
SM
BC
Webb
CP
Dumas
Clark
I'd love to see the actual numbers. Cash in, expenses, overhead, etc.
quote:
Rounds of golf played at BREC’s six courses in 2018 remained relatively flat compared to rounds played in 2017, dropping 0.8%. In all, 111,374 rounds of golf were played on BREC courses in 2018, down 903 rounds from the 112,277 played in 2017, according to a BREC golf report.
That's consistency.
quote:
Dumas—an 18-hole course—had just 12,134 rounds played in 2018, far fewer than the other 18-hole courses in the BREC system. J.S. Clark—a 9-hole tract—had 3,518 rounds played, while the other 9-hole course, City Park, had 9,131 rounds played.
Paging Lsu13Lsu
Ranking by play:
SM
BC
Webb
CP
Dumas
Clark
I'd love to see the actual numbers. Cash in, expenses, overhead, etc.
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 9:49 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
.8% is a nothing burger....headline is misleading
Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:19 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
It also rained more days in 2018
Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:35 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
They need to close courses. An independent study agrees with that.
My vote would be Clark and City Park.
The right answer would be to close Dumas too but it’ll never happen politically.
My vote would be Clark and City Park.
The right answer would be to close Dumas too but it’ll never happen politically.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:41 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
For BR Business Report to leave out dollars it must be really bad. They don’t like to make EBR look like a bad place to live and do business.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:14 pm to lsu13lsu
Closing courses is a bad idea. Valuing memberships is what they need to do.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 7:49 am to BallChamp00
A course that does only 3,000 rounds right next to a course that does only 12,000 rounds and both need to be open? Haha. Yeah. Memberships would help those courses.
A study agrees that courses need to close they just cannot close Dumas and Clark down. I do think Clark’s days are numbered.
A study agrees that courses need to close they just cannot close Dumas and Clark down. I do think Clark’s days are numbered.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 8:47 am
Posted on 3/23/19 at 9:39 am to lsu13lsu
I played Dumas some when I had more afternoon time. It's not a bad course. The conditions can just be terrible. But. It's in baker.
People in Zachary would prefer to play beaver. People in BR proper or farther south wouldn't drive up to Dumas, with Webb, lsu, SM, etc.
I've only ever played city park once and may never play Clark. I use clark's range sometimes. That's about it.
People in Zachary would prefer to play beaver. People in BR proper or farther south wouldn't drive up to Dumas, with Webb, lsu, SM, etc.
I've only ever played city park once and may never play Clark. I use clark's range sometimes. That's about it.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:44 am to The Johnny Lawrence
Played BC yesterday. Have no idea WTF they're doing out there, but the greens looked like shite, a few tee boxes have NO grass... just dirt. And the Club House decided to let a group of children have a bday party out there. Took us 6 hours to play.
ETA: could've played the Island for same price, had better greens to putt on, and nicer facilities.
ETA: could've played the Island for same price, had better greens to putt on, and nicer facilities.
This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 9:48 am
Posted on 3/25/19 at 5:19 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
I learned how to play golf at City Park and had my first ace on #1....course needs to be closed. Dumas needs to be closed. Invest the difference in making Clark a quality First Tee complex and cart girls at SM and BC.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 5:35 pm to TaderSalad
quote:
Played BC yesterday.
Did you win?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:14 am to JimmyMcGoo
I'm for more BREC courses, but that is based on my assumption that they are all breaking even. I'd love to see a balance sheet, etc.
If City Park breaks even or even makes a little money compared to what they spend, I don't see how closing it is a good option. If it is closed, it becomes a big open space park, which is cool, I guess. But someone is going to have to pay to cut that grass, and there isn't any way to charge anyone for using it. So it, like most of the BREC parks, will be running at a loss.
It's tough to make any assertions without the full facts.
If City Park breaks even or even makes a little money compared to what they spend, I don't see how closing it is a good option. If it is closed, it becomes a big open space park, which is cool, I guess. But someone is going to have to pay to cut that grass, and there isn't any way to charge anyone for using it. So it, like most of the BREC parks, will be running at a loss.
It's tough to make any assertions without the full facts.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:59 am to The Johnny Lawrence
quote:
I'm for more BREC courses, but that is based on my assumption that they are all breaking even. I'd love to see a balance sheet, etc.
If City Park breaks even or even makes a little money compared to what they spend, I don't see how closing it is a good option. If it is closed, it becomes a big open space park, which is cool, I guess. But someone is going to have to pay to cut that grass, and there isn't any way to charge anyone for using it. So it, like most of the BREC parks, will be running at a loss.
It's tough to make any assertions without the full facts.
The last time they presented dollars none were breaking even and it doesn't appear things are trending up and they seem to be spending more money at the courses lately.
An independent study that BREC paid for said to close courses.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:59 am to lsu13lsu
How close were they to even? Is it comparable to what a green space would lose?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:08 am to The Johnny Lawrence
Only CP and SM were close enough to cover that. The rest were really really bad.
I wouldn't say any were close to break-even. SM could get there if they raised prices and added a Marshal to ensure rounds didn't take 6 hours. SM is worth more than what they charge and they could easily charge more with a working Marshal system.
I will guarantee you they don't want to release dollar figures because the last time they did it wasn't pretty for them.
I wouldn't say any were close to break-even. SM could get there if they raised prices and added a Marshal to ensure rounds didn't take 6 hours. SM is worth more than what they charge and they could easily charge more with a working Marshal system.
I will guarantee you they don't want to release dollar figures because the last time they did it wasn't pretty for them.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 10:12 am
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:34 am to lsu13lsu
3rd Party study done Dec 2014
pages 43 and 45 have revenue vs expenses
Reminder this study is several years old, I have not been able to find documents with recent revenues vs expenses
pages 43 and 45 have revenue vs expenses
Reminder this study is several years old, I have not been able to find documents with recent revenues vs expenses
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:56 am to lsu13lsu
The trick is to just blame the weather every year.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:09 am to lsu13lsu
How were Dumas expenses $715K?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:10 am to CoachChappy
I think they updated the clubhouse area that year. I could be wrong on that.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 11:11 am
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