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re: Augusta National Conditions

Posted on 10/2/20 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by IlikeyouBetty
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/2/20 at 5:03 pm to
That’s a metric frick ton of seed! Got damn! No wonder that shite looks so tight in April!
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/2/20 at 6:27 pm to
Bruh its Augusta National, they know what they doin
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 10/3/20 at 12:37 pm to
It’s called scalping the Bermuda grass and then over seeding with rye, fescue and bluegrass...the course will look incredible by middle of October.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 10/3/20 at 12:40 pm to

quote:

they overseed in the Fall with a blend of Bermuda and rye.


Nope, the Bermuda gets over seeded in the late spring...it will not germinate during cool nights....need warm weather. The tournament is played in the spring with bluegrass, rye, and rescue (cool grass).
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41561 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 12:43 pm to
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Do you know the date these were taken. Rye grass should be up now in northern Georgia so these may be a month or so old.


The pics were recently taken...they were in a golf magazine article this week. The explained the process they are scalping the Bermuda (yearly thing) and overseeding with cool weather seed.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/3/20 at 12:59 pm to


And just like that it’s green, pic taken yesterday or today
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 1:11 pm to
Looking good
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89884 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 6:06 pm to
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Nope, the Bermuda gets over seeded in the late spring...it will not germinate during cool nights....need warm weather. The tournament is played in the spring with bluegrass, rye, and rescue (cool grass).


Take it up with progolfnow:

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The biggest problem, believe it or not, will be the turf. Augusta National is overseeded for play each the spring. The overseeding is actually done in the fall, and it has to be completed while the night temperatures are still warm enough so that the tender shoots of new grass are not killed by chilly temperatures. Once established, the grass will survive winter in Augusta and be ready for golfers in the spring.


LINK .
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 6:09 pm
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41561 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 8:48 pm to
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The overseeding process takes between three and four weeks, minimum. The Bermuda is not watered, and then it’s scalped down to a tiny height. After that, the annual grass overseed, often rye, is applied and the golf course is watered. Then everybody waits for the grass to grow in.


Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89884 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:07 pm to
lol...what's your point?

Send a letter to their editor if you disagree with them.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41561 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:14 am to
Do you understand that the Bermuda is basically dried out (not watered) and scalped....then they oversees with rye (mostly), fescue and bluegrass. Bermuda is not in the mix..it can not grow or germinate in cool weather. That is my point.


The Bermuda mix is over seeded after the tournament in the spring...not during the fall. The cool grass in Georgia will get scorched in the hot sun and heat...that is why courses in the Midwest/East are bent...south they are Bermuda....Augusta has so much FU money, they can do both (close the course down to do it).

Wish the resident super (Bama fan) would chime in and confirm what I am stating. My neighbor is the main guy at UK Athletics over the only grass fields...he knows several guys on the crew at Augusta. We just overseeded our yards 2 weeks ago with the same mixture he puts on his fields and with fertilizer. (50 pound bag of rye mix with some fescue and I mixed in Kentucky Bluegrass on my yard). Our yards looked liked Augusta when we thatched (scalped) and then we overseeded, we did not airiat this year since we did that last year. It is the same thing Augusta did several weeks ago.
This post was edited on 10/4/20 at 10:28 am
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:27 am to
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Bermuda mix is over seeded after the tournament in the spring..
Why would they use seeded Bermudagrass at all. It's not the best for fairways and is Augusta National even open at all when the cool season overseeded grasses aren't there?
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41561 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:32 am to
Don’t know...but Bermuda thrives in heat...fescue/rye does not....Augusta has the staff and so much money they can do the different varieties. Plus, they can close the course several months.

Like I said, I wish the resident Bama poster would chime in...he is a course super.

Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:39 am to
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.he is a course super.

I used to be. I know varieties have advanced since I was in the business so there is a good chance what I know is outdated.

But yes bermudagrass needs warm to germinate. It is a very tough grass to seed. You almost have to til back to dirt to be successful. The rye/fescue should start dying off in May or maybe later in north Georgia. Even in Louisiana some rye would hang around until May.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41561 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:49 am to
I find this fascinating stuff...my dad graduated from Purdue in horticulture and agronomy (turf school)...learned from him growing up from him yard stuff.

I know being a super is hard work and I have all the respect what you did. Trust me, Bermuda in our yards is like a fricking weed. Hard to get rid off...but this time of year, it starts to brown up and go dominant. You are correct, you basically have to till it up to get rid of it...it is an aggressive grass in the heat.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41561 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 11:38 am to
Alright, I just learned what is going on from my neighbor....basically, every spring/fall, Augusta scalps and dries out the Bermuda grass, it does not die....it basically is in the ground....but they do overseed Rye grass twice/year for cosmetic....they spray a chemical called Contana on the grass (expensive chemical...very pricey) to kill off the rye and the Bermuda comes back in when it gets warm...but, the crew does this process before the Tournament (scalp, overseed, and fertilize the rye to make the course look plush)...but Augusta National is a Bermuda course that the crew throws Rye down prior to the Masters. The rye is for cosmetic reason....and it is an extremely expensive.
This post was edited on 10/4/20 at 11:40 am
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10702 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:54 pm to
Basically the Bermuda is a bed for the overseed. The course is shut down all summer. May-October I think.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18920 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:18 am to
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I'm still laughing at MHD being the only one of us to put a ball in the drink on 12


The air is too thick to hit a three finger 155 yard lob wedge in East Central Ga.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89884 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 7:22 am to
And just like that...POOF!!!

The most magical place on Earth.

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Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3908 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Like I said, I wish the resident Bama poster would chime in...he is a course super.


I worked as an assistant pro for a decade and actually did the overseeding at my first course after I turned pro in south GA. We overseeded in September and the Atlanta CC I worked at did the same, except it was only the tees as our greens were bent. We played on dormant Bermuda fairways in the winter.
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