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re: Any golf ranking system that doesn’t have Bruce Kupcake…

Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:02 am to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:02 am to
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How does the PGA Championship award points when a guy like Michael Block, a club professional, is in the Top 10?
Michael block plays one tournament that he has to qualify for

Chase koepka is guaranteed 14 tournaments regardless of what he does. Congrats on a horrible analogy. If michael block, or any other player was guaranteed 14 tournaments when they were never even good enough to qualify for the Korn ferry tour, maybe you would have had a point…

That’s Livs issue that makes it impossible for setting up ranking points in the traditional sense . They are giving slot of guaranteed events for golfers that simply don’t truly belong, so if you just slot those tournament ranking points guys like chase koepka and other are going to be hugely inflated
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 8:15 am
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:33 am to
Brooks is a golfing contradiction.

He is usually a non factor in the regular tour events.

But in Majors, he really shows up and performs.
Posted by pjk481
Member since Sep 2011
684 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:34 am to
There was an article this week in the WSJ on this topic. The two brothers who founded Datagolf.com actually do have a formula that ranks all golfers, including LIV.

Ironically, the OWGR collaborated with the brothers to partially use their formula for rewarding strokes gained more in the points distribution.

The article goes on to show that their formula isn’t dependent on field size.

Interesting article, and shows the rankings and points can be done if they actually wanted to.

LINK
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 8:35 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:41 am to
If you look at datagolf though brooks is still ranked in the 30s. That won’t be good enough for the people complaining about the rankings
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 2:06 pm to
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top 25


more like top 5
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 2:20 pm to
My gosh.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 3:44 pm to
I like watching LIV golf and …
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These guys knew what they were getting into when they decided to leave, they knew this was a possibility, if not then they should have done a little more research or asked more questions before taking the money. I don't fault them for taking the money but I don't feel sorry for them either. Their tour does not deserve world ranking points, it's a closed field exhibition tournament
I agree with this.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 5:10 pm to
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Maybe they could use scoring average over x number of rounds


Super fair to compare the guys playing the PGA this week to the ones playing LIV Tulsa or the Byron Nelson last week…

Cmon
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 5:13 pm to
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Bryson aren’t among the best 30 golfers in the world.


Even using LIV, Bryson wouldn’t be in the top 30 in the world.

Looks like he’s starting to play better, but he’d been awful for the last year.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 5:18 pm to
They gotta figure something out. The OWGR isn’t legitimate as it currently stands.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24790 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 5:23 pm to
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They gotta figure something out. The OWGR isn’t legitimate as it currently stands.




. It isn't the OWGR's responsibility to fix it. If LIV wants in then they have to change some things.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45623 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 5:24 pm to
I get it. I just don’t know what to do. Like Pride said, how do you acct for guys like Chase Koepka and the fact that there’s no qualification system?

A bunch of 54 hole no cut events that are being won by the likes of Chucky 3 sticks and Danny Lee.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 5:38 pm to
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Super fair to compare the guys playing the PGA this week to the ones playing LIV Tulsa or the Byron Nelson last week…


So no points for any tour but pga, right?
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 5:51 pm to
Is Brooks going to jump into the top 10-15 now?

Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45623 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:03 pm to
He’s 13.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45623 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:04 pm to
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So no points for any tour but pga, right?


I’m not sure how that’s what you got from my post

I’m saying if we solely go off score shot, it’s not fair to use the PGA Championship against both the most recent PGA Tour and LIV events.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:07 pm to
I agree with you there. But there has to be a metric to include LIV, right? Surely some mathematicians can figure out an equitable way to do it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108590 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:09 pm to
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I agree with you there. But there has to be a metric to include LIV, right? Surely some mathematicians can figure out an equitable way to do it.
Top 10 only gets points? Extra points for wins?

I really don’t know the answer until they have a true meritocracy way for making their tour
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:10 pm to
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Top 10 only gets points? Extra points for wins? I really don’t know the answer until they have a true meritocracy way for making their tour


I don’t know what it is. But there is a mathematical formula out there.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108590 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:13 pm to
The truth is, liv just needs to frick off and the pga needs to find a way to beat their arse in court and make the contracts null and void. The changes on your were made, go back home to your high school sweetheart.

Pam was fun Bud, but it’s time to go back to Sissy
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