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Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by Froman
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:49 pm to
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I’m waiting to get to the parts I’m gonna start hating this game.


I also stayed away from spoilers and anything about the game and after I finished it I had to look up what people had issues with. It’s a fine game.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:54 pm to
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social justice is actually a good thing


I used to think SJW’s were bad until the stuff considered SJW (diversity, tolerance of gay people, etc.) turned out to be the correct things to fight for. An SJW used to be someone that was mad they were “taking Christ out of Christmas”. Now it usually describes someone fighting for a good cause.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 11:30 pm to
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stuff considered SJW (diversity, tolerance of gay people, etc.)


Hide in the Motte, they have breached the Bailey!!!!


:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 11:34 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 11:41 pm to
The term social justice has been bastardized. It used to mean actual equality like voting right and gay marriage now it's just usually used when referring to some purple haired white woman who bitches about the patriarchy being the reason her gender studies degree hasn't gotten her anywhere
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 11:43 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 11:46 pm to
Equality under the law isn't social justice, it is civil rights.

Social justice, by any reasonable definition, is simply vengeance. A reckoning for ancestral wrongs.

The whole thing is a Motte and Bailey fallacy. People play along to seem woke, because they are afraid to appear otherwise.
Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
Member since Jun 2008
5390 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:55 am to
I m one of the very few that enjoys the game very much. I agree they went all in with the shock value and ultimately you’re left with a bad taste in your mouth. I’m not sure how I feel about the story. I get what they were going for but the story fell short mostly because the characters that were loved in the first game were pretty much spit on with little to no value as far as how much they brought to what could have been a great ending. Despite it going off the deep end. I enjoyed the game overall but the story could have been much better
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 7:56 am to
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I used to think SJW’s were bad until the stuff considered SJW (diversity, tolerance of gay people, etc.) turned out to be the correct things to fight for. An SJW used to be someone that was mad they were “taking Christ out of Christmas”. Now it usually describes someone fighting for a good cause


Exactly.


It's the same in the church now. When the term "fundamentalist" surfaced, when you looked at it and you were a Christian and followed the teachings of Christ, of course you would consider yourself a fundamentalist. Then some writer wrote a negative piece on fundamentalism and from that point on it's become a dirty word within the church.

When you get to the roots of a lot of stuff, there's a lot of time good intentions and ideas behind it, but allow people to morph it and make it into what they want, it becomes bastardized or just taboo.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66439 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 10:04 am to
Grounded and Permadeath modes coming out. Great

LOU1 on Grounded is one of the hardest gaming things ive ever done. cant believe I'm gonna do it again
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21312 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 11:14 am to
I think the problem with social justice is that the majority of people really just don’t give a frick. And because we don’t give a frick we wish they would all just shut the frick up about it(media/entertainment)Go have same sex marriage. Go kill your baby. Go fight for equal rights. Just keep us out of it. We just want to work. Pay our bills and enjoy our entertainment.

The problem is...especially with progressives....is the extreme distance they are taking things. They run on emotion and little logic. Progressives just make it hard to back them.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 11:16 am
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 11:43 am to
It's an issue with both sides. A pastor out of Dallas I like said it best in a sermon: there are good arguments being made on both sides, but it's the loud fringe crowd that people hear the most, or at all.

You say the left has an issue with being emotional, a thing I'm seeing with a lot of the right is not letting go of old info. They hear something they agree with once and won't let it go. Someone commented that COVID-19 is just like the flu and people are still clinging to that like people still claiming the XBONE has to be online.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 11:54 am to
Nothing disgusts me more than organized religion.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77623 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 11:57 am to
I don't like religion either.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21312 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:10 pm to
It applies to both 100% but like you said...idiots are the loudest.

Your majority:

Only two sexes but you do you
Racism is bad
Gays are people to.
Back the blue with an understanding that there is work to be done.
Pedophiles are bad.
Practice whatever religion you want.
Don’t want politics in entertainment.

Your vocal:

Fight racism using racism
Ima deer girl boy
Give us free shite cuz we are lazy
Rich man bad because he works hard and did the things I’m not willing to do
Criminals are our martyrs
Our media is fair
Pedos are people to.
Let men in our women and daughters bathrooms
Cancel everything that doesn’t agree with me.
Have a transgender kill Joel
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:28 pm to
I want to be clear, here. I am not saying this game is SJW or anything. I just dislike the story altogether.

Just commenting on the ignorant use of the phrase "social justice", and the suggestion that it is a good thing.

Civil rights are good.

Social and cosmic justice are always morally bad, and can lean into outright evil if given too much rope.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:33 pm to
also, my reasons for disliking the story is the philosophical dishonesty.

We want you to malign you for killing, but you have to kill to move the story along. Very dishonest, bordering on outright hypocrisy.

And Abby is never redeemed in my eyes.

frick her
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21312 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:48 pm to
As far as the game goes...I haven’t played. I know what happened to Joel and I just don’t agree with the handling of it. None of the other shite really bothers me. To me it will be just another sequel that failed in being better than the original...when it actually had a shot to be just as good or better. That’s the failure.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 3:49 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 4:06 pm to
Gameplay is fantastic. Worth a play for that alone

The narrative choices are laughably bad. I didn't mind the pacing, though I can see where others would.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 4:51 pm to
Stfu you soy boy. It’s so uncomfortable of a scene and no reason should it have been In. I hope this bankrupts them until they figure out that pushing political issues and SJW crap will only hurt them.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76505 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:20 pm to
Take a breath, man

Jesus
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:09 am to
Justice is a subjective matter in the social structure of humanity.


Hitler thought the near annihilation of Jews was justice. Xi Jinping believes total oppression of the Chinese people is justice. But I’d like to believe the majority of the free world thinks the latter is an absolute lunatic and needs to be put in front of a firing squad or get gassed. The person who wrote TLOU 2 is wholly entitled prick named Neil Druckmann who believes his games break the mold with complex narratives and gameplay elements that make players uncomfortable rather than allow them to have fun per se. Gameplay takes a back seat to the story which is a big no no.

Neil is a prime reason why I hate American developers and posters like sicboy because you wonder why people like me and Freauxzen are such devout Nintendo fans...cause Sony’s putting shite out like this. Think I might even make a hot take thread later on that will really get some blood boiling in this place.
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