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Starcraft 2: What is your primary race and build order/build strategy?

Posted on 1/22/12 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 7:22 pm
I just want to get inspiration to play as a different race and/or tweak my build for my primary race. You can offer suggestions to my build order/build strategy as well

I understand build orders change against certain races. And it changes through the game, but there are some things that are constant.

Terran

CONSISTENTLY WELL-TIMED OPEN
- Produce SCVs up to 10 supply (unless wall is needed)
- Supply depot
- SCV
- Barracks
- SCV
- Vespene Refinery
- SCV
- Barracks

NEXT STEPS
- Produce marines
- Reactor on barracks
- Factory
- Tech lab on barracks
- Tech lab on factory
- 1 siege tank
- Research siege

BASIC PROGRESSION
- I'm obviously making marines and marauders the entire time
- Once one siege tank is made I try to expand
- I build another vespene refinery
- I upgrade expo to planetary fortress
- I get the shields upgrade at the barracks
- Build a starport
- Research stim-pack at the barracks

IF/THEN BUILDS
* My count is 2 barracks, 1 factory, 1 starport that are producing continuously
- If I have extra minerals I double my barracks
- If my opponent is massing a unit, I build against it by adding another factory or starport
- If undecided my default is to get to battlecruisers as efficiently as possible, including getting another expansion to utilize the vespene geysers there

AND THEN
- Focus on upgrades
- I roll out when I have max supply and build more structures to replenish my army more quickly
- Dominate.


I don't expect responses as detailed as this.


Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15421 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 7:25 pm to
I pegged you as Terran.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40189 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 7:40 pm to
Get you some medics and medic shuttles. Works great against zerg. If playing against toss get marauders with concussion shells.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 7:47 pm to
Toss or Zerg
Protoss build (1v1)
9 pylon
12 gateway
15 nexus
Into robo

Zerg (1v1)
9 overlord
14 hatch
Into roaches or muta

4v4 or 3v3 I go either 4 gate or 14 pool because I hate to lose early game.
Posted by JLock
Member since Jun 2011
4988 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 9:12 pm to
Zerg exclusively. Usually go 15hatch, sometimes go 12pool to mix things up
Posted by TigerGambit
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
127 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 9:18 pm to
I play pretty standard zerg and terran up until you tech past tier 1.5 units and then I'm crazy all over the place. Do any of yall get together and play/practice? Wouldn't mind joining up.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 9:28 pm to
I played Protoss mostly. Mostly 2v2, so build order would change a lot. In 1v1 I'd either 4 gate or rush colossus depending on what I think my opponent is doing.
Posted by urtoosmall
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
549 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:59 pm to
Zerg

ZvT - 15 hatch / 15 pool
ZvP - 15 pool / 16 hatch
ZvZ - 14 gas / 14 pool / 21 Hatch

I doubt anyone on this board could beat me 1v1.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 11:36 pm to
quote:

CONSISTENTLY WELL-TIMED OPEN
- Produce SCVs up to 10 supply (unless wall is needed)
- Supply depot
- SCV
- Barracks
- SCV
- Vespene Refinery
- SCV
- Barracks

NEXT STEPS
- Produce marines
- Reactor on barracks
- Factory
- Tech lab on barracks
- Tech lab on factory
- 1 siege tank
- Research siege

10 SP
12 Rax
13 Refinery
15 Orbital
15 Marine
17 Depot
17 Factory
19 Refinery
22 SPort
-Nice balanced build that allows you to counter anything
SCV's, mules, marines constantly.
Make sure you wall in and scout for cheese or tactics.
Keep producing marines/medivacs and do drops to harrass the economy. If you can do some damage, out-macro them.

Combat Shield
Concusssive/Stim
+1 Weapons
Siege mode
+1 Armor
Tech to fight opponent
Expand about around 8-10 min mark.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 11:40 pm to
6rax push
banshee play
early bunker rush

for other races
protoss seems to be pretty micro heavy
zerg tends to be very macro heavy

I'm going to try zerg. The speedling/baneling play can be very powerful in the early/mid game.
And they can do a tech switch so quickly.
Posted by adamsblueguitar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
1448 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 12:24 pm to
Protoss here.

9 pylon - use first chrono immediately after it finishes
13 gateway
14 gas
16 pylon
Cyber Core as soon as gateway is done
Second gas
Second Gateway
Robo
Chrono out observer and immediately send into their base to see what units they have
React completely based on scouting info

Against zerg, early I go heavy zealot/sentry. Against protoss I go heavy stalker/zealot, but make sure to have a sentry or two to force field off the ramp in case he decided to all in with early marines.

Mid game be sure to have either observers or cannons out to stop DTs/cloaked banshees/infestors. If you don't do this, and they hit, it's game over.

I'm around high-gold level 1v1 at the moment.
Posted by RolandDeschain
Member since Apr 2011
2445 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 12:38 pm to
Expand early and learn to hold off cheeses!
Posted by TunaTigers
Nola
Member since Dec 2007
5368 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 1:01 pm to
I am in the process of trying to copy dApollo protoss builds. Of course the dude is a much high skill set as I am in sliver and he is a EU master/GM. However he has great tutorials on builds and why you do certain things. DApollo's youtube.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
Ron Don Volante's PlayPen
Member since Jul 2011
7041 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 1:15 pm to
I always open up these threads because I had the first starcraft and I liked it and still want to get SC2, but then I start reading and realize I haven't a fricking clue what you guys are talking about.
Posted by RolandDeschain
Member since Apr 2011
2445 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 1:28 pm to
Silver Terran: Hieur Code:695 Add me if you want to practice/discuss strategy. I've watched starcraft 2 for a few years but just recently started playing the game.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

I am in the process of trying to copy dApollo protoss builds.
This is one of my practice techniques. I'll pick a Pro that I admire and copy his builds/tactics. If they can work at the highest level, they can surely be effective in the lower leagues.

Right now, I'm following MMA & MVP.
MMA is all about map control, unit survival, and tactical drops/ pushes. If you can destroy their economy it's way over.

MVP is macro defensive and pushes out with a devastating mech ball. His macro and APM are insane.

- Pectus, pick a pro that best fits your current style, or how you want to play... and steal their builds.
Posted by sk33ter
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
944 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Pectus


If you haven't already, check out Day9TV. Very informative and often times entertaining.

Shameless plug, I know, but it's worthwhile, IMO.

Don't ever stop making SCVs
Posted by RolandDeschain
Member since Apr 2011
2445 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Pectus


You should make your second command center an orbital as it is easy to defend with your units. Also you should know the timing of certain builds to know what to look for.
Posted by cascade
Ruston
Member since Nov 2011
346 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 5:53 pm to
Aladys : 316 if anyone wants to practrice against a diamond zerg
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 6:24 pm to
Awesome ideas and builds all around, guys.

Roland, I think I'l do the orbital command in my natural expand, and use planetary fortress in other areas. I really like the security the planetary fortress provides though.


To Josh Fenderman, fellow Mr. Show fan, I actually had to talk myself into getting SC2. My reason was a bit different, but I'm glad I made the switch. It made me a gamer again.

Like you guys suggested, I do watch matches and day[9]. One concrete thing that I learned after watching the touted "longest match ever" was if I have a structure alive during a base rush, I win if I eliminate my enemy's. So about a week after seeing that I was stuck in a situation that was a base rush. I had the better army, but not good enough to defeat my opponent since he was tearing away at my buildings faster than I could get to him and finish him off. So, once I was really low on structures, something clicked and I tried to look for an SCV on the other side of the map (my only SCV ), found one, and built a supply depot. Once the opponent saw that my army sat between him and my newly erected supply depot, he GG'd me.

I learned more things than that from videos, but like I said that was a direct impromptu decision aided by my "research".

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