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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 12/7/13 at 1:15 am to
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 1:15 am to
Same here. I dream of having a big luxurious desk, large and sturdy enough that I can even fit my 900D on it, along with an array of at least 3 1440p panels. Other than the obvious cost barrier, the only place it would fit is in our bonus room, which is on the opposite side of the house. Given how much time I spend on the computer for work and play, I prefer it in our bedroom, which is adjacent to the living room and where we all spend the majority of our day.


This post was edited on 12/7/13 at 1:18 am
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 8:14 am to
Life gets in the way sometimes. My stuff is in our guest bedroom of a 2 bedroom house. If we have company staying, I can't play... if we have a baby here, guess what is being moved out of that room? I need a new house... and a new job to pay for a new house...
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 10:27 am to
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900=====D
Posted by brucevilanch
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 10:28 am to
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 11:20 am to
I need to weigh the case with all the components and water. It probably weighs over 60 pounds.
Posted by USAF Hart
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 1:16 pm to
So I went to the BX to check out the available options and wow they were shite. They didn't have anything over a 2.0 ghz processor, and they only had I think 2 laptops that were i5 core. Everything else was i3. At least I can buy still purchase online. With that said, are any of these desktops worth the purchase?

Gaming Desktops

This post was edited on 12/7/13 at 1:17 pm
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 1:42 pm to
Not for that kind of money. Most of those you could build for half the money.
Posted by USAF Hart
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 1:50 pm to
Too bad I can't just swap out the CPU on this laptop and add a few more things to it to make it faster. That could probably improve my stream performance. It's a relatively new laptop (maybe 2 years old).
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 2:04 pm to
Yeah, it sucks. About the only things you change on them is ram and storage. If you're just wanting it for streaming then you could build a super cheap pc and just throw a solid cpu. You don't need a super expensive CPU for streaming console gameplay. There's 2 reason pc guys spend a lot for a cpu for streaming. 1. The want the stream to be in 1080p or 720p at 60fps. 2. They are not using a dedicated streaming pc and the impact of streaming can impact gameplay performance quite a bit, depending on the settings. What kind of internet connection do you have? What capture device are you using?



This post was edited on 12/7/13 at 2:11 pm
Posted by USAF Hart
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 2:10 pm to
Using the Hauppauge HD PVR 2 with a DVI+Audio to HDMI converter to bypass the HDCP block that Sony has on the PS4.
Posted by brucevilanch
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 2:17 pm to
That should be doing all the encoding for you. It pretty much the purpose of them, other than being a pass through to your computer.

I meant to ask you which program you were using to stream too. What resolution/fps are you streaming at? What's your internet speed?
This post was edited on 12/7/13 at 2:22 pm
Posted by USAF Hart
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 2:34 pm to


I use Xsplit and have the following settings:

Bitrate (kbps) 600 - CBR
Preset - superfast
strict CBR - On
VBV Buffer (kbit) - 600
Resolution - 854 x 480 (480p) 16:9
Frame Rate - 25.00 fps

Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

Bitrate (kbps) 600 - CBR
Preset - superfast
strict CBR - On
VBV Buffer (kbit) - 600
Resolution - 854 x 480 (480p) 16:9
Frame Rate - 25.00 fps


Those settings are waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy too low for your internet speed. 600 KBPS is less than 1mb of upload.

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Bitrate (kbps) 2500 - CBR Preset - superfast strict CBR - On VBV Buffer (kbit) - 2500 Resolution - 720 16:9
Frame Rate - 30.00 fps


FIFY. You should be able to do that and if you can't then there's something wrong. I stream at 720p@60fps with 2700kbps and I only have an upload speed of 4.2

Also, unless you have a loyalty to xsplit(like your paid subscription hasn't expired yet), try OBS. It's quite a bit less resource intensive and it's free.
Posted by USAF Hart
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 2:52 pm to
I will give those settings a try. I just assumed that if it was lagging, than drop my stuff more to allow for my computer to run it smoother.

I don't have a paid subscription to Xsplit, I just finally started learning how to use it. Is OBS easy to use, and can you do the same things on OBS that you can on Xsplit?

Edit: I can't go above 25 FPS using Xsplit without paying for it, so I will just have to stick to 25
This post was edited on 12/7/13 at 2:54 pm
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 3:02 pm to
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I will give those settings a try. I just assumed that if it was lagging, than drop my stuff more to allow for my computer to run it smoother.


Absolutely not. Actually, there's a balance between CPU and internet speed. For example, you have a high end cpu but a low upload speed you can change the CPU preset so that it encodes it more and takes stress off your connection. In your case it's the opposite way. You have a laptop CPU, so you can gain quality by pumping up the upload speed. Twitch only allows 3500 kbps, anything higher than that will be wasted. Since you have an upload speed of 6+ you might want to try 3500 because you won't be losing anything on your end at all(unless you're torrenting, which you shouldn't be if you're streaming). Also, you're not using much of the CPU anyway since the HDPVR is doing the encoding.

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I don't have a paid subscription to Xsplit, I just finally started learning how to use it. Is OBS easy to use, and can you do the same things on OBS that you can on Xsplit?



OBS is almost identical to xsplit except it isn't as pretty.

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Edit: I can't go above 25 FPS using Xsplit without paying for it, so I will just have to stick to 25


You can go up to 120 with OBS.
This post was edited on 12/7/13 at 3:04 pm
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 3:05 pm to
In the instances where my wife and son are both upstairs streaming their netflix, would it be beneficial for me to bump up to 3000, or should I stay around 2500?
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24418 posts
Posted on 12/7/13 at 3:10 pm to
Just experiment with it. Set up 2 or 3 different scenes and have identical settings except for the bitrates being different. You can set-up a QoS with your router to prioritize your laptop, so that it will give it more bandwidth over the other devices.

You're hardwiring your laptop while streaming, right? If not, then you're not doing it right.
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 3:21 pm to
I am not hardwired while streaming because my router, etc is in a completely different room. I may have to try and find a way to move all of that into my game room, but that will require some rearranging of stuff in here.

My Stream

You can see that it's still choppy even with the settings you gave me. I just wish I could find a way for it to not lag. It's so frustrating.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 4:53 pm to
Was wondering where you been. So I did a little digging. Now I understand.














fricking bitcoins
Posted by brucevilanch
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/7/13 at 4:58 pm to
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