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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 7/20/13 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 2:30 pm to
13.5 beta
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 3:15 pm to
13.6 beta 2


Looking for opinions on something --

I'm working on a PC guide at the moment, that walks a newbie through configuring a build, part by part -- essentially, what to look for and why.

As part of the guide, I wanted to configure an example build with a particular budget, just to show what you'd get with X amount of money. Just not sure what a good baseline budget is. I think it would be ideal for this sample build to have all around good performance in most applications, with excellent 1080p performance (i.e., consistent 60+fps with very high or max settings in most games, not necessarily including MSAA or SSAA).

Whatever budget I choose will have a natural deviation of 10% or so, since I won't be able to update it every time X brand of GPU gets a rebate deal or otherwise changes in price.

I'm thinking a nice, round budget would be $1,000 not including monitor. My gut says some of you are probably going to say that's waayyy too much. You can get by with less, but I think that's the budget you need to get not just an excellent gaming rig, but an all-around workhorse with some futureproofing in mind.

I suppose I could do multiple sample builds.
$500 steam box, $1,000 performance PC, $1500 powerhouse for 1440p, etc.

Would just be a pain to update them all every few months.

Open to suggestions. I've seen build help threads on both sides of the spectrum -- some with challenging low budgets, and others with unnecessary inflated budgets, and many in between.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 3:24 pm to
I think $1000 would be a good number. All the builds would be a challenge to update regularly with the way things change. What you are willing to put into is up to you. Perhaps once a month pick a budget to do a build for?

Eta: I love what your doing. I have had the same idea as you when it comes to unbiased benchmarking and reviews. Lets go into business.
This post was edited on 7/20/13 at 3:27 pm
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 3:26 pm to
my current newegg wishlist "quicklists" as i like to call them have gaming builds in the following ranges (tower only, no OS):
$450
$550
$750
$1200
$1550

just as a reference. those of course have margins in mind since they are for sale. i have been updating them around the same time TH does a build for the money, so usually quarterly, or if a new release or major price drop happens.

eta: changed the price points, i hadn't changed the titles since the last time i updated.
This post was edited on 7/20/13 at 3:43 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 3:29 pm to
I would do a midgrade $500-$700 to compare it to the new consoles coming. That's what a lot of people new to PCs are going to base things off of.
This post was edited on 7/20/13 at 3:30 pm
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 3:54 pm to
I'll add this. you could think about making two sections, one for those who have no interest in ever OCing and one for those who might consider it in the future. That would effect mobo chipset, cpu, and gpu selections for those adhering to a strict budget.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:18 pm to
is batman AA and AC good with kb/m or should break down and buy a xbox controller for them? ive only got like 10 min into AA.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:25 pm to
I played both with KB/M, but like I said in another post, I haven't touched a console controller in many years. The experience may be better on a controller for all I know, but I didn't feel "limited" or awkward with kb/m.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:26 pm to
I have been playing AA with a controller. Seemed like a game that is probably natural to controller.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:27 pm to
ok cool. i havent used a controller for anything other than mario kart wii since 2007 or so.
Im just trying to figure out how to start on this backlog of games.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:30 pm to
MY advice is to just play it on kb/m and if you just can't do it then get a controller. What did it for me was I hated driving in San Andreas with the kb/m and Assassins creed was unplayable without a controller.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:33 pm to
I like the idea of a $500-700 build class to pit against the next gen consoles.

I suppose I could throw in some examples for overclockers vs non-overclockers, but most of the guide, as written, is more of a technical explanation of specs put in layman's terms, and what to prioritize. It's really aimed at helping someone configure a system that performs appropriately at stock. I could see this thing getting really, really long.\

Hell, just the sections that discuss framerates and graphics cards total 4,000 words alone.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Assassins creed was unplayable without a controller.


Curious, why? I ask because I fricking hate assassin's creed, and maybe the controls are to blame.

However, I had a great time playing sleeping dogs with KB/M.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:36 pm to
I can't give you a lengthy explanation because it didn't take me long to say frick that. I didn't try key mapping either. I just decided to use a controller and never looked back. You may find it better than me. I personally just believe some games are meant for controller.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 6:16 pm to
What program do you guys are to rip DVDs onto your hdd? I'm considering selling off a few of my DVDs and streaming them from my pc if I want to watch them.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 6:44 pm to
I use handbrake. Google the how to geek article and they will have the extra file you need to break encryption. I would link but on my phone
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 7:11 pm to
youll need to install the following:
handbrake
dvd43 plug in
libdvdcss.dll (this is simply added to the handbrake install folder)

im thinking about creating a google drive account just for the folks in this thread and letting us store some software like this there
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 7:22 pm to
Sounds great thanks.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 10:55 am to
Power just went out at the start of my Sunday.. gaming relaxation day.

I have a wireless Verizon LTE hotspot to support the MBP for a few but the outcome looks grim. Why must I bee tortured to low detail rendering? Why must I feel so distant from my Titans on this day? Why why why?????!
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:12 am to
Bad Weather? Power may be back soon, hang in there
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