re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

I am sorta disagreeing. A card that can match 5070ti/4080 performance and has decent RT ability and a nonshitty upscaler for $600 and 16GB vram makes it a really compelling option compared to Nvidias options. Especially if they can be had at actual MSRP and not this insane inflated markup.

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I forgot you play at potato settings

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Yeah but frames go hard in the paint!

My 4070 I bought for $450 sold for $670.

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Early leaks are within a few % of the 7900xtx at 1440

That’s a huge win

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I don't necessarily love doing game averages, because that can get heavily skewed, but for the sake of coming in quickly:

Per HUB:

At 1440p, the 9070xt (119fps) is functionally identical to the 7900xt (117fps) , 5% slower than the 5070ti (126fps), and 12.5% slower than the 7900xtx (136fps).

At 4k, the 9700xt (74fps) is functionally equivalent to the 5070ti (75fps), 7% faster than the 7900xt (69fps), and 10% slower than the 7900xtx (82fps).

In RT 1440p, the 9700xt (68fps) is the functional equivalent of the 5070 (70fps), very significant upgrades over previous AMD cards at 31% better than the 7900xt (47fps) and 21% over the 7900xtx (61fps) while being equally outclassed at 21% by the 5070ti (86fps).

In RT 4k, the 9700xt (38fps) is again the functional equivalent of the 5070 (39fps), a 34% upgrade over the 7900xt (25fps) and a 21% upgrade over the 7900xtx (30fps) while again being significantly outclassed 25% by the 5070ti (51fps).

I'll leave this as raw data and then reply a bit later with thoughts.

Based on the benchmarks available. The 9070XT does appear to be a good buy, but it’s really going to hinge on just how improved FSR 4 is. If it’s able to achieve similar visual quality to DLSS 3 then I think it makes the card the go to purchase at the price point for 1440p gamers.



Unless you play Final Fantasy XIV

That game specifically must be something related to drivers.

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Based on the benchmarks available. The 9070XT does appear to be a good buy, but it’s really going to hinge on just how improved FSR 4 is. If it’s able to achieve similar visual quality to DLSS 3 then I think it makes the card the go to purchase at the price point for 1440p gamers.

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I've only had time to skim a couple of videos, and not from anyone I implicitly trust, but my takeaway is that is going to make the math extremely complicated. In short, what I'm hearing is:

1. FSR4 is just as good, if not very slightly better, than the DLSS CNN model (what most people are calling DLSS3, which isn't technically accurate, but I understand the confusion).
2. The DLSS Transformer model (what people are calling DLSS4) is significantly better than FSR4.

That's not the complicated part. This is the complicated part:

3. FSR4 and DLSS Transformer are roughly equal in computation costs (read: all things equal, they will have roughly the same improvement in FPS).
4. DLSS CNN is significantly computationally lighter than both FSR4 and DLSS Transformer. Like, 15% performance boost lighter.

In short, assuming what I'm hearing is accurate, the visually similar FSR4/DLSS CNN have very different performance numbers and the performatively similar FSR4/DLSS Transformer have very different visual qualities. Making apples to apples comparisons complicated as shite without giving lengthy explanations.

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LSUGent

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Actually one of the two videos I skimmed through to come to the conclusions I did above.

Random pc hardware question for anyone in here. So my new gaming laptop is on its way and I noticed it comes with 2x8GB DDR5 ram. Being that ram is so cheap, would it be worth it to upgrade to 2x16GB? It seems really easy to replace.

How do I know which specific product is compatible/will fit? The specs in the manual just says:

MEMORY
DDR5-5600
Max 64GB
2 Slots

Thanks. Does brand really matter?