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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 10/10/24 at 10:17 am to
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 10:17 am to
Intel comparing their top of the line chip to a 9950X for gaming... yeah they aren't confident at all about beating the AMD 7800x3d/9800x3d chips for gaming.

Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:39 pm to
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Rumored prices for Nvidia 5000 series cards.

MLID will publish pretty much anything, so I’m still cautiously optimistic, but if this is even close to accurate, I’ll be skipping this generation as well, assuming AMD has abandoned the high end.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 3:29 pm to
Yeah Intel is slower than 14th gen and can't beat the 7X3D series. Meanwhile the 9X3D leaks are showing 15-20% gaming bump over 7X3D. Slaughter.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:05 am to
This may not be surprising to any of you, but I was just browsing Newegg and noticed that the 7800X3D is around $130 more than I paid for mine about 7 months or so ago. Any guesses as to why that large of an increase?

I realize "supply and demand" but why would the demand for this chip be so high?
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:19 am to
It's not a demand issue, it's a supply issue. They were available for like $330 just a month ago and have since shot up due to a significant reduction in production

I'm glad I got one cheap as well
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 9:46 am
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:37 am to
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I realize "supply and demand" but why would the demand for this chip be so high?


The 9800x3d comes out in a few days. AMD stopped production on the 7800x3d like a month or so ago in preparation for the 9800x3d launch.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:47 am to
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9800x3d launch.


I keep telling myself I don't need to upgrade but I know I will
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:15 am to
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I keep telling myself I don't need to upgrade but I know I will




I bought an AM5 board for exactly this reason. But now they have X870E's...so I have a conundrum.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:38 am to
I have an X670E so no need to upgrade mobo for me. Aint hurting for USB4.0 that bad
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 10:32 am to
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I have an X670E so no need to upgrade mobo for me. Aint hurting for USB4.0 that bad



Yeah, but.....
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 11:35 am to
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Yeah, but.....

This was part of why I put off upgrading platforms. Historically, the biggest jump in board capability tends to be between the first and second generation. After that, boards get really iterative or start including features that no one really needs yet, like next gen PCIe when we haven’t saturated the previous gen yet.

But yeah, first gen buyers tend to get itchy as the platform matures
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 11:54 am to
9800X3D embargo lift Nov 6 and product launch Nov 7: LINK
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 11:40 pm to
Apple reportedly considering buying Intel as chipmaker continues to struggle

Samsung also mentioned. Would be wild to see Intel bought out, AMD may have literally ended that company with Ryzen (and their own lack of advancement for many years ofc).
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Apple and Samsung aren't the only major tech companies that have reportedly considered buying Intel. In September, it was reported that Qualcomm had reached out to Intel about a potential takeover.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 11:55 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 8:54 am to
LINK

Looks like it's been officially confirmed that the 9800X3D is launching at $479 (blah) with a reported 8% gain over the 7800X3D (a bit meh, but fine) and 20% over the CU 9 285k (which, if true, is likely what is driving the price hike).

I don't love that AMD is starting to flex their position in their pricing, but it was inevitable. Assuming the independent reviews hold up, sounds like a solid chip, though you're certainly no longer getting an "AMD discount". I don't think it's an immediate buy for me, as my 5800x is still chugging along just fine, but that could change if I end up pulling the trigger on a GPU in a few months.
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 9:16 am
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:04 am to
AMDs Ryzen 5000 series is their cpu version of a 1080ti.

Those chips could very well last and perform well for another 5-6 years.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 7:55 am to
I don’t have time this morning to dig into them, but reviews for the 9800x3D are very positive. Not as big of a cost per frame jump as you would like to see, due to the increase in price, but nonetheless better than the 7800x3D, unless you catch the latter deeply on sale. I’ll see about adding some of those breakpoints later. But regardless, it crushes Intel’s current options.

If you’re budget conscious, it’s obviously a more nuanced conversation, but if you’re not, and you’re looking to build the baddest gaming rig on the block, this is it (as always, at least for now )
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:13 am to
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reviews for the 9800x3D are very positive.


PC Jesus had some good things to say but was unable to explain why there was a huge performance jump for some games and not for others. It ranged from 8% to 27%, depending on the game, above the 7800x3d.

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but nonetheless better than the 7800x3D, unless you catch the latter deeply on sale.


Newegg has this thing for almost $600. Just get the 9800x3d and don't look back.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 3:06 pm to
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PC Jesus had some good things to say but was unable to explain why there was a huge performance jump for some games and not for others. It ranged from 8% to 27%, depending on the game, above the 7800x3d.

Random guess, but maybe games that are more or less single core clock sensitive? I imagine games that utilize multiple cores better might see less improvement from a clock or IPC bump.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:51 pm to
I'm lucky to live close to a Microcenter. 9800X3D is only $30 more ($450 vs $480).
There were 9800X3Ds selling on Ebay earlier for $750.

Speaking of which, the 7600X3D is looking really good right now at $300.
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 9:53 pm
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23649 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:50 pm to
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Speaking of which, the 7600X3D is looking really good right now at $300.



Seems like decent value for Zen 4.
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