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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:44 am to Joshjrn
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:44 am to Joshjrn
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Random guess, but maybe games that are more or less single core clock sensitive? I imagine games that utilize multiple cores better might see less improvement from a clock or IPC bump.
He explained what they tested and that they tested it over and over, on multiple games. I won't pretend to understand what he said or meant.
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:07 am to SaintEB
Haha fair enough. I’ll watch soon and see if I can make heads or tails of it.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:30 pm to SaintEB
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He explained what they tested and that they tested it over and over, on multiple games. I won't pretend to understand what he said or meant.
I haven't finished the video yet, but based on the BG3 result, it sounds like it's related to core usage, but kind of in the opposite manner in which I was thinking. The newer chip has a significantly higher power budget, which not only lets it boost higher in single core, but allows it to boost much higher (relatively speaking) in all core workloads. BG3 (and some other games) appear to be capable of heavily taxing multiple cores simultaneously, which allows the newer chip to shine because the older chip has to reduce clocks all core to maintain stability.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 3:05 pm to Joshjrn
And as a price point follow up, it looks like you should only seriously consider going with the 7800x3D over the 9800x3D if the former drops below $400 (and the latter remains at MSRP). Anything above that and you're better off with the new chip on a price to performance analysis.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 5:06 pm to Joshjrn
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And as a price point follow up, it looks like you should only seriously consider going with the 7800x3D over the 9800x3D if the former drops below $400 (and the latter remains at MSRP). Anything above that and you're better off with the new chip on a price to performance analysis.
Is this how PC parts will be forever now? Something cool comes out, scalpers snatch them up and put them on ebay for 150% of cost? Can't get the 9800x3d for anything near msrp. Is this what AMD wants? (I'm not getting one, but if I were, I'd be frustrated). Not sure what can be done about it, it just seems like if AMD put more out there, then the scalpers wouldn't have the demand to do this.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 5:12 pm to SaintEB
Nah, scalpers are going to buy up everything, regardless. They did the same thing with the PS5 Pro, leaving scalpers with huge inventory.
There’s no rush to buy a 9800x3D right now. Hell, motherboard selection sucks arse. Wait a month or so and buy. I will be shocked as shite to see this turn into a 30 series GPU scalping situation.
There’s no rush to buy a 9800x3D right now. Hell, motherboard selection sucks arse. Wait a month or so and buy. I will be shocked as shite to see this turn into a 30 series GPU scalping situation.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:20 am to Joshjrn
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. They did the same thing with the PS5 Pro,
Good point. There are pros available at my local Best Buy right now.
ETA: I don't think I'll do a MB. I'm on AM5 right now.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 11:21 am
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:47 am to SaintEB
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ETA: I don't think I'll do a MB. I'm on AM5 right now.
And you shouldn't. But for people buying into AM5, waiting for the second generation of motherboards is generally better. Prices of the first gen boards comes way down and the feature sets of the new boards tend to be more mature.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:10 pm to Joshjrn
Jumping in this thread.
I think my 11 yr old mobo is toast. You guys helped me build my first rig that long ago.
Should I replace the mobo or use this opportunity to full on upgrade?
Ideas? I believe everything else is in working order
I think my 11 yr old mobo is toast. You guys helped me build my first rig that long ago.
Should I replace the mobo or use this opportunity to full on upgrade?
Ideas? I believe everything else is in working order
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:16 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Jumping in this thread.
I think my 11 yr old mobo is toast. You guys helped me build my first rig that long ago.
Should I replace the mobo or use this opportunity to full on upgrade?
Ideas? I believe everything else is in working order
Full specs, every part. We'll need that to know what can be salvaged, cost for replacing the board, whether it's worth it based on usage case, etc. Which, speaking of, what do you use it for?
ETA: Honestly, I think you should make a separate thread. You'll get more eyeballs that way and you'll be able to find it more easily for late reference.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:25 pm to Joshjrn
Good idea. I'll do that and pull the specs.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:33 pm to HailToTheChiz
Damn I'm guessing you have a 4th gen Intel cpu.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:26 am to GoGators1995
Speaking of old games. Got some steam codes if anyone wants.
CIV3 complete: D3Y3J-EC4FP-R3LPH
Sid Meier's Railroads: DNG4H-AET4V-P0KIP
CIV4 complete: CGDGF-GP6WP-GDD75
Still a few left.Just take it for whoever wants, Just be courteous enough to post what you take so peeps don't try to put in codes that aren't valid.
CIV3 complete: D3Y3J-EC4FP-R3LPH
Sid Meier's Railroads: DNG4H-AET4V-P0KIP
CIV4 complete: CGDGF-GP6WP-GDD75
Still a few left.Just take it for whoever wants, Just be courteous enough to post what you take so peeps don't try to put in codes that aren't valid.
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 11:41 am
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:08 am to hoojy
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Speaking of old games. Got some steam codes if anyone wants.
CIV3 complete: D3Y3J-EC4FP-R3LPH
Sid Meier's Railroads: DNG4H-AET4V-P0KIP
CIV6: CEQMD-RHYX8-5HGZE
Sid Meier's Pirates: F2Z2D-CPM0N-3NIFN
CIV4 complete: CGDGF-GP6WP-GDD75
I already have Civ6, so I'll leave all of the Civ games to others. Grabbed the classic Pirates. Thanks, mate
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:10 am to hoojy
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Speaking of old games. Got some steam codes if anyone wants.
CIV3 complete: D3Y3J-EC4FP-R3LPH
Sid Meier's Railroads: DNG4H-AET4V-P0KIP
CIV6: CEQMD-RHYX8-5HGZE
Sid Meier's Pirates: F2Z2D-CPM0N-3NIFN
CIV4 complete: CGDGF-GP6WP-GDD75
I grabbed CIV 6. Thanks brother
Posted on 11/14/24 at 12:29 pm to LSUGent
Having a wifi issue with my son’s current PC and want to make sure it’s not an issue going forward. He consistently has near full bars but it’s still incredibly laggy for games like Roblox and makes it impossible to play Fortnite.
Would a range extender help with this issue?
Would a range extender help with this issue?
Posted on 11/14/24 at 12:40 pm to bad93ex
Potentially could be related to your networks firewall.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 12:54 pm to bad93ex
VPN?
Posted on 11/14/24 at 1:17 pm to bad93ex
Desktop or laptop? If laptop, does it improve if he moves to different areas of the house?
Posted on 11/14/24 at 1:48 pm to Joshjrn
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Desktop or laptop? If laptop, does it improve if he moves to different areas of the house?
Desktop, his bedroom is only about 40 feet from the router but there are 3 solid walls.
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