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Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

and that ceiling fan looks low enough to cut your head off.



10ft ceiling. The wide angle shot makes it look like it's head height
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:06 pm to
Rip Blue, decapitated. Pour it out.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:10 pm to
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I bought 3 of these for my monitors. I hate the lack of versatility the 2n1 mounts provide. Especially with the way I keep my monitors



I didn't even consider two singles. I like that idea.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:08 am to
y'all, i'm thinking of upgrading my CPU, and i've seen alot of love for the 5800x3D. is that really the best one out of the 5000 series. they seem to be sold out everywhere though compared to a 5900x. are there any pros/cons to these?

7000 series isn't really an option for me at the moment.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:36 am to
The 5800x3D is the best gaming processor on the market for AM4, and it’s not particularly close. And it’s probably not in stock because a huge sale was just run on them for like $329. Just wait for a restock.

But that’s just for gaming. If you need the extra cores for production tasks, the 5900x would obviously blow it out of the water.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 9:37 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:30 am to
antonline has the 5800x3d for $329 + uncharted bundle. have you guys ever ordered form them? what's the usual timeframe?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:41 am to
Antonline consistently has the lowest prices on CPU these days, but I don't have any experience with them. People on Reddit seem to buy from them all the time, though.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:22 pm to
I've ordered from there. No issues at all
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37977 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:30 pm to
ordered. lets hope that this increases my frames in CoD.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37977 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:40 pm to
i had a 3600x

i'm in the low 100s with 1440p.

3080 FE.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:41 pm to
I know. But I figured you knew your own FPS, so no need to inform you

Made more sense to give an easy comparison to the non-x3D version (5800x, 5900x, 5950x basically game identically).
Posted by SpeedyNacho
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 2:44 pm to
The AMD site had some bundles that were insane. You can get a 6900xt and 5800 for 1200
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18856 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 3:48 pm to
That doesn't seem like a great deal. Feel like I've seen 6900xt under $700 new
Posted by SpeedyNacho
Member since May 2014
2462 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 4:44 pm to
Excuse me, it’s a 6950XT paired with the 5800x3D for 1028$



7900x and 6950Xt for 1173$
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
29966 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 6:18 pm to
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Excuse me, it’s a 6950XT paired with the 5800x3D for 1028$


That's pretty spicy. Saves you about $100 off of the best prices of both these days. Would make a great core of a very sexy $1,750 or so build.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37977 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:18 am to
aight, josh. i must've done something wrong because i got no improvement with this 5800x3d processor.

3600x


5800x3D






so yeah, the 5800x3D doesn't seem to be a viable upgrade from a 3600x.


and now i'm a little peeved that i spent $350 for this thing.
This post was edited on 11/26/22 at 12:29 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37977 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 1:34 am to
i did change my settings to these and now i'm getting 30-40 more frames. not sure if i would've gotten them with the 3600x.


LINK
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
29966 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 9:10 am to
Finch, look at the CPU segment of the benchmark.

You went from 123fps average to 264fps, a 114% increase. You went from 100fps as the average of the lowest quintile to 211fps, a 111% increase. You went from 83fps as a 1% low to 174fps, a 110% increase.

But your "problem" is that you went from being 34% CPU bound to 1% CPU bound, and your average GPU frames went from 107fps to 95fps (likely just run to run variance, or possibly a driver issue? I notice you updated your NVIDIA driver). So yeah, massive CPU upgrade, but if you have settings that make you primarily GPU bound, you're not going to see much of an uplift

ETA: I imagine I'm preaching to the choir, but in case there's someone reading who doesn't understand what they are looking at with those benchmarks: historically, benchmarks just spit out the frames per second of what your total system was able to display. However, more modern benchmarks can calculate the frames your CPU is processing and your GPU is processing as separate values. Your system will always only be able to display the lower of the two numbers, whichever component that might be. And whichever number it's using tells you whether the system is "GPU bound" (like Finch's), or "CPU bound". Knowing your bind tells you what's worth upgrading, or whether you need an upgrade at all.
This post was edited on 11/26/22 at 9:34 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37977 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

Finch, look at the CPU segment of the benchmark.


yeah, i noticed that, but i was like "that doesn't do me any good. i'm still getting the same FPS on screen."
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