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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 6:10 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 9/6/20 at 6:10 pm to UltimateHog
Huh? DSC - Display Stream Compression
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Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:16 pm to Raz
Correct, DSC is visually lossless.
And don't get me started on 144Hz for PS5 as if games are ever going to be pushing that on that thing.
And don't get me started on 144Hz for PS5 as if games are ever going to be pushing that on that thing.
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:31 pm to UltimateHog
So between now and the holidays, it looks like the following is all coming out:
AMD Ryzen 4000 series
nVidia 3000 series
AMD Big Navi
Monitors with HDMI 2.1
Did I miss anything important?
How the hell am I supposed to plan a build right now?
Edit to remove Intel gen11
AMD Ryzen 4000 series
nVidia 3000 series
AMD Big Navi
Monitors with HDMI 2.1
Did I miss anything important?
How the hell am I supposed to plan a build right now?
Edit to remove Intel gen11
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:37 pm to Raz
quote:
Intel 11th gen (with 4th gen PCIe)
Tiger Lake is just mobile.
And HDMI 2.1 is not needed for PC's with a modern GPU.
Speaking of HDMI 2.1, apparently LG OLED's from both 2019 and 2020 have an issue with VRR and they don't know if it's fixable. Big yikes for LG. LINK
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:55 pm to UltimateHog
DSC is great but it's still going to be better to not have to rely on compression. Even if it isn't visually noticeable, should have less input lag.
Posted on 9/6/20 at 10:00 pm to UltimateHog
Also if Intel isn't going to have 11th gen out this year, then that simplifies things for the CPU. I'm not seeing a reason not to go PCIe 4th gen.
The people who are saying "nVidia did all their performance testing on PCIe 3rd gen" and "you don't need PCIe 4th gen" are the same people saying "It's only a 2-7% drop in fps from PCIe 4th gen to 3rd gen".
Seems like if I'm not paying a crazy premium to go with AMD and PCIe 4th gen, that's the way to go. And even if it isn't a huge difference today, you'll be better future proofed if you want to upgrade later.
Or am I missing something?
The people who are saying "nVidia did all their performance testing on PCIe 3rd gen" and "you don't need PCIe 4th gen" are the same people saying "It's only a 2-7% drop in fps from PCIe 4th gen to 3rd gen".
Seems like if I'm not paying a crazy premium to go with AMD and PCIe 4th gen, that's the way to go. And even if it isn't a huge difference today, you'll be better future proofed if you want to upgrade later.
Or am I missing something?
Posted on 9/6/20 at 10:01 pm to Raz
Eh, DSC input lag is basically nothing with how it operates. Not an issue or anything to worry about waiting for HDMI 2.1 in 2021. Hell DP2.0 next year will make it obsolete on PC anyways and it nearly doubles the bandwidth of HDMI 2.1.
quote:
DSC is a linear stream compression that is only a single pixel row buffer equalling one horizontal scan rate. For a signal of 160KHz horizontal scan rate in Custom Resolution Utility (160,000 pixel rows per second), the latency of DSC at one end is 1/160,000sec. Even the temperature difference of 18 degrees C versus 20 C slows down an LCD pixel response (and thus lag) FAR MORE than this DSC overhead.
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 9/6/20 at 10:03 pm to Raz
Zen 4 is PCIe 5.0 which is a substantial jump over the short lived 4.0 (double the transfer rate), so I wouldn't worry about that. I believe DDR5 too.
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 9/6/20 at 11:38 pm to LSU Coyote
Did someone say pupdate?
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:24 am to bluebarracuda
No image lol
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:25 am to UltimateHog
quote:
Zen 4 is PCIe 5.0 which is a substantial jump over the short lived 4.0 (double the transfer rate), so I wouldn't worry about that. I believe DDR5 too.
But as a gamer we make bonus from this..
Wtf is this sentence. I swear correct
It should have said " But as a gamer we get no use from this.."
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 9:43 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 11:05 am to LSU Coyote
quote:
No image lol
wtf it was working fine for me last night
Posted on 9/7/20 at 11:21 am to bluebarracuda
Imgur ftw
Edt: I see it now! I love pups!
Edt: I see it now! I love pups!
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 11:24 am
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:29 am to LSU Coyote
I've been wanting to replace my G613 with a wireless TKL so I went ahead and bought this to give it a go
LINK
I'm used to the Gateron Browns on my G613. I wanted a TKL with function keys, and this was one of the better looking options I found. I do wish it had a dedicated USB dongle bc I could see the bluetooth latency being an issue
LINK
I'm used to the Gateron Browns on my G613. I wanted a TKL with function keys, and this was one of the better looking options I found. I do wish it had a dedicated USB dongle bc I could see the bluetooth latency being an issue
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 7:30 am
Posted on 9/8/20 at 12:20 pm to bluebarracuda
What's the absolute smallest case that can fit a single slot video card?
Posted on 9/8/20 at 11:06 pm to UltimateHog
Rumors swirling AMD is unveiling Big Navi tomorrow. AMD chief architect tweeted the Annie song lyrics for tomorrow.
Appears the naming rumors were true they'll be the 6000 series.
Appears the naming rumors were true they'll be the 6000 series.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 11:37 pm to UltimateHog
I've been playing with undervolting the 2070 Super in the Sentry to reduce fan noise and help with thermals.
I've used MSI Afterburner to get it to 963 mV at 1935 MHz, which, with a custom fan curve, allows me to run Unigine Superposition and Unigine Valley Benchmarks with max temps of 71 degrees C.
However, the fan curve gets shifted when I click apply very slighly, which pushes the frequency up to 1980 MHz.
Does MSI Afterburner shift the V/F curve based on the card's supported voltage steps automatically?
Don't get me wrong, I'm super happy with the performance and thermals in such a small case, but I'm just trying to understand for my own knowledge if that is what is happening.
I've used MSI Afterburner to get it to 963 mV at 1935 MHz, which, with a custom fan curve, allows me to run Unigine Superposition and Unigine Valley Benchmarks with max temps of 71 degrees C.
However, the fan curve gets shifted when I click apply very slighly, which pushes the frequency up to 1980 MHz.
Does MSI Afterburner shift the V/F curve based on the card's supported voltage steps automatically?
Don't get me wrong, I'm super happy with the performance and thermals in such a small case, but I'm just trying to understand for my own knowledge if that is what is happening.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:32 am to boXerrumble
so apparently Asus is coming out with a new 4k/120 monitor with HDMI 2.1 that is available in 27", 32" and 43"
that 32" may be calling my name
that 32" may be calling my name
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:34 am to Carson123987
are you guys expecting the 2000 series RTX cards to have a price drop once the 3000 series drops?
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:44 am to finchmeister08
they wont be making them anymore
obv the secondhand market prices will decrease
obv the secondhand market prices will decrease
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