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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:14 pm to
Oh my if true.



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Then we've got the actual performance slides. The first is a straight 4K gaming performance graph, highlighting ten different games and the RX 6900XT's relative performance compared with Nvidia's RTX 2080 Ti. For reference, it's sometimes as much as 52% faster than the flagship Turing GPU, and will only cost $999. Bargain.

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Ray tracing performance of RDNA 2, and the fact that at worst you'll get 91% of the non-ray traced frame rate performance in the current suite of DXR-enable games. Seems like RXRT, if that is what AMD's marketing department feels it ought to call RDNA 2's ray tracing implementation, isn't going to have the performance penalty of Turing's RT Cores.


Buy stock boys.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 3:16 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:22 pm to
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relative performance compared with Nvidia's RTX 2080 Ti.

So performance of a 2yr old die that I purchased 1.5yrs for $900 pre-WB?

They have to have a version without the garbage cooler right? Guessing we have a $799 version which performs between 2080 Super and 2080 Ti?
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For reference, it's sometimes as much as 52% faster than the flagship Turing GPU

Task specific benchmarks which aren't gaming, I wish all parties with stop this type of marketing.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 3:24 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:23 pm to
51% more performance??? That is bonkers. No way it's true. All the rumors have been just slightly more powerful than 2080ti no chance its 51% in 4K.

Still though, buy stock hard right now. This is AMD's ryzen launch.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 3:24 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:28 pm to
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51% more performance??? That is bonkers. No way it's true. All the rumors have been just slightly more powerful than 2080ti no chance its 51% in 4K.

It is most likely task specific benches that all parties, Intel, AMD and nVidia like to push to ppl who don't know any better.

That shtt doesn't work with us, but bumps up stocks from $55, hopefully. =) I'm putting money into AMD weekly, little 10 shares at a time while its hovering around $50.

What keeps their stock from shooting up their with nVidia (I know it wont see that lvl any time soon) but is AI? That is the reason nVidia's stock went crazy last year, is AI right?
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Still though, buy stock hard right now. This is AMD's ryzen launch.

I am, I took all my AAL earnings last week and put into AMD before the PS5 event. It has been a weekly buy.

They will never be nVidia in the graphics department anytime soon, they just can't match the R&D, but fckk I was hoping prices would be closer to $700, and it might be $799 without the cooler.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 3:32 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:33 pm to
Well you don't try and revive every part of your business at once.

It was always get Ryzen mainstream and the company back profitable through cpu division. That's a check now.

Over 20% increase in gpu division R&D since last year now that they can.

Seeing results building will help the stock greatly as long as the launch goes smooth. Then you can go from there on everything else related to the GPU division including AI and data center tech which is being called CDNA for this years cards.


It's a process to come back like this, but beyond well on their way.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:34 pm to
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Well you don't try and revive every part of your business at once.

Yes I know, but the problem is they had been on their heals even after bulldozer.

They just never kept up after Big Kepler.

Edt: Almost wish they never purchased ATi.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 3:35 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:36 pm to
With the new consoles, and Ampere/Big Navi launches.. i'm pumped for the new year!
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:39 pm to
Should be a nice second half of 2020 on the tech side for everyone. 4th Gen Ryzen is going to sell like crazy in a few months with Intel having nothing and it being a big leap forward. I think we'll see the best sales of Ryzen yet.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 3:44 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:25 am to
Kind of disappointed in the Ryzen 3rd gen XT announcements, hopefully they are discounted heavily right away:

3900XT - $500
3800XT - $400
3600XT - $250

I can get a 3900X for $400 right now, a 3800X for $310 and a 3600 for $160 (or 3600X for $190). With mild clock speed bumps, those XT versions are way overpriced unless they can finally overclock very well or something. They are only 100-200mhz bumps in clocks from current X versions. Not that it matters for most people, but the 3800XT and 3900XT do not come with coolers, so AMD saved some money there for sure. If these were all $50 lower, AMD would sell them like hot cakes till 4th gen came along.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 7:29 am
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:13 am to
100-200 bumps but probably throttle weirdly to stay within the power envelope.

My 3900X is a strange beast.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 8:19 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:01 am to
Yeah will be interesting to see how it maintains clocks while gaming, I see a 3900x in benchmarks usually only do about 4.2ghz while gaming. Maybe if the new 3900XT can hold 4.7ghz (or even 4.5ghz), that'd be pretty sweet.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:51 am to
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Yeah will be interesting to see how it maintains clocks while gaming, I see a 3900x in benchmarks usually only do about 4.2ghz while gaming. Maybe if the new 3900XT can hold 4.7ghz (or even 4.5ghz), that'd be pretty sweet.

I seat around 4.3 with boost during loading at 4.5/4.6. I'm under water with a custom loop, keeping me below 50C under load. I know temps effects boosts big time.

Edt: When is release date?

No way the 3900XT holds boost 500MHz higher than the 3900X. If that is the case, I will change the chip out. But don't think they are advertising that, just 100-200MHz higher clocks.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 5:44 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 3:36 pm to
Yeah 500MHz isn't gonna happen. Maybe 300 on the best binned?

I'd just wait until September at this point, not like it's far away. I never understood this refresh with 4th Gen so close to begin with. I guess just to frick with Intel so I'm okay with it.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 3:37 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 5:36 am to
Updated to the 2H20 update, and I must say, the new chromium based Edge is a total replacement to Chrome. And it looks exactly like it too.

Imports everything from chrome including themes, extensions, bookmarks, passwords.

Half the ram resources, while also being faster.

Think I will full time switch.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 5:37 am
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56429 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 9:39 am to
Heard good things on the PCPer podcast.

Will give it a shot.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:38 pm to
Cool finds at school sale



Bonus pic

Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 1:13 pm to
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maybe a little but not worth a CPU upgrade for a midrange gpu.
I wouldn’t consider a 2070 that mid range. It’s pretty much right in par with 1080ti in terms of performance. I’m gonna play it by ear and if I don’t see a CPU upgrade necessary or worth it, I won’t do it. The calculator I used showed about 8% bottlenecking from the CPU at 4.8 and about 24% at 4.2.

Idk what kind of bottlenecking there will be on a game like Warzone but I’ll monitor my CPU load and compare it to what it is now with my 1060.

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What did you do with the 1060?
I plan on selling it.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 2:49 pm to
In the BR area? I might be interested in picking it up
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56429 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:17 pm to
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I plan on selling it.

I'm interested, do you have me on Steam. Not in the Discord.

Trace_zz
Trace - Coyote
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:22 pm to
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090, RTX 3080 & Titan RTX Graphics Cards With Ampere Gaming GPUs Alleged Specifications Detailed
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Alleged specifications of NVIDIA's next-generation GeForce RTX 3090, RTX 3080 & Titan RTX with Ampere Gaming GPUs have been detailed. The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 series will be featuring a brand new graphics architecture and other key driving features for faster gaming performance in next-generation AAA titles.

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