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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 4:22 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 10/19/19 at 4:22 pm to UltimateHog
Maybe they're better binned? 
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Posted on 10/19/19 at 4:25 pm to brucevilanch
They are, just that the difference is about 150-250MHz more OC room on the best binned. Not worth it.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 4:46 pm to UltimateHog
That's what I figured. Reviews said the same thing.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 5:06 pm to UltimateHog
quote:
3900x
You don't need that extra heat.
quote:
They are, just that the difference is about 150-250MHz more OC room on the best binned. Not worth it.
Nope.
The 3700X is such a steal at its price. Esp when it goes on sale sometimes closer to $300.
This post was edited on 10/19/19 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 10/19/19 at 6:17 pm to LSU Coyote
I've become so jaded by mountain bike stuff that a $30 savings doesn't even seem to matter to me. It's weird. I usually am usually very cost conscience.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 8:42 pm to brucevilanch
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I've become so jaded by mountain bike stuff that a $30 savings doesn't even seem to matter to me
Dive gear will eat you out of house and home.
Lets do a nerd device count
Computers 2
Laptops 2
Tablets 3
Cell phones 3
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:32 pm to DoUrden
Computers 5 - In Use: MAIN, SERVER, FREENAS, HTPC, SURVEILLANCE
Laptops 5
Tablets 0
Cell phones 2
SBCs 25-30 - Only maybe 10 currently in use for projects.
Edt: What tablets do you have Dourden? We have a Surface Pro but never put it in tablet mode. I want to get another tablet but only Android. Everything has sucked in terms of personal preference since the Nexus7 and nVidia Shield Tablet era.
Love a compact form factor. I want something like the Nexus7 again, but slightly larger screen around 8.5" to 9"?
Laptops 5
Tablets 0
Cell phones 2
SBCs 25-30 - Only maybe 10 currently in use for projects.
Edt: What tablets do you have Dourden? We have a Surface Pro but never put it in tablet mode. I want to get another tablet but only Android. Everything has sucked in terms of personal preference since the Nexus7 and nVidia Shield Tablet era.
Love a compact form factor. I want something like the Nexus7 again, but slightly larger screen around 8.5" to 9"?
This post was edited on 10/19/19 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:56 pm to LSU Coyote
I use mine when I travel for delays in airports and I don't want to drag the laptop out and in the morning to check on things while I am in bed waking up.
I just bought
Vankyo MatrixPad Z4 10 inch Tablet
DON"T BUY, It's TRASH!
Been using
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition, but it's too old and slow, capped at Jellybean
LINK
I have and don't laugh and old HP touchpad running Cryogenmod.
LINK
I carry an Anker PowerCore 10000
LINK
It is nice when in a bind, help a guy in Houston call his daughter and tell her his plane was delayed when his phone was dead. Airport plugins are
I just bought
Vankyo MatrixPad Z4 10 inch Tablet
DON"T BUY, It's TRASH!
Been using
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition, but it's too old and slow, capped at Jellybean
LINK
I have and don't laugh and old HP touchpad running Cryogenmod.
LINK
I carry an Anker PowerCore 10000
LINK
It is nice when in a bind, help a guy in Houston call his daughter and tell her his plane was delayed when his phone was dead. Airport plugins are
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 10/20/19 at 9:39 am to UltimateHog
Posted on 10/20/19 at 9:55 am to LSU Coyote
Diablo 4 all but confirmed for Blizzcon reveal. D2 remaster as well.
This post was edited on 10/20/19 at 9:56 am
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:36 am to UltimateHog
Need to find laptop for my Quest, so I can run SteamVR and full Rift games while traveling. What's good out there now? Been a long time since I looked at laptops. Don't really care about a giant screen or it being a "gaming" style eye sore, rather it more compact. Want a beast processor (most important part for the games I play, single core important), decent graphics card.
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 8:37 am
Posted on 10/21/19 at 11:56 am to Dam Guide
Dell Inspiron Gaming (G5) series is pretty good. Great performance with very acceptable cooling and acoustics at a decent price. Plus, none of the ghey Alienware/Gamer aesthetics.
Edt: I believe the Thunderbolt 3 is x4 too.
Edt: I believe the Thunderbolt 3 is x4 too.
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 10/21/19 at 12:07 pm to DoUrden
quote:
It is nice when in a bind, help a guy in Houston call his daughter and tell her his plane was delayed when his phone was dead. Airport plugins are
Hobby SW terminal is shtt when it comes to power outlets. Most of them don't even work.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 4:38 pm to LSU Coyote
Ryzen 9 3950X outperforms Intel's 10980XE by 25% despite having 2 less cores.
3950X $749
10980XE $979
LINK
3950X $749
10980XE $979
LINK
quote:
The Ryzen 9 3950X scored 32,082 points while the Core i9-10980XE put up 25,838 points. Despite the two-core disadvantage, the Ryzen 9 3950X still manages to outperform the Core i9-1098XE by a margin of 24.2%.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:45 pm to UltimateHog
AMD needs to show mercy on poor Intel.
But honestly, Physics score has always been a weird thing in 3DMark. AMD suffered for years in that benchmark's physics score all because of an error in Windows' scheduler. Using shared high lvl cache per core pair during the Bulldozer era didn't help much, but the benchmark didn't reflect real world performance for AMD.
Never the less that benchmark has always favored CPUs with large high lvl cache.
I'm betting you would be hard press trying to get that variance to translate to real world use. However, it is still fact AMD is wiping the floor with Intel's offerings.
But honestly, Physics score has always been a weird thing in 3DMark. AMD suffered for years in that benchmark's physics score all because of an error in Windows' scheduler. Using shared high lvl cache per core pair during the Bulldozer era didn't help much, but the benchmark didn't reflect real world performance for AMD.
Never the less that benchmark has always favored CPUs with large high lvl cache.
I'm betting you would be hard press trying to get that variance to translate to real world use. However, it is still fact AMD is wiping the floor with Intel's offerings.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:57 pm to LSU Coyote
Yeah, 7nm Threadripper is only going to make the HEDT gap bigger.
This after Intel says they won't have anything new for desktop until 2021.
And this:
This after Intel says they won't have anything new for desktop until 2021.
And this:
quote:
Nearly 14 months after Intel’s struggles to produce enough 14nm processors began, rumors are flying that the shortages will last at least one or two more quarters, taking us well into 2020.
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 10/22/19 at 6:55 am to DoUrden
quote:
Lets do a nerd device count
Computers (can I do VMs
): 6 Laptops: 2
Tablets: 2 that are stashed away in drawers
Cell Phones: 1
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:19 pm to UltimateHog
Rumor from German sites is 2022 for desktop 10nm.
There is no way.
There is no way.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:37 pm to LSU Coyote
I read no desktop 10nm at all the other day.
quote:
According to the German site HardwareLuxx, Intel has canceled all of its 10nm desktop CPUs. 10nm, 10nm+, and 10nm++ will all be mobile and server parts, while desktop chips will supposedly remain on 14nm until 7nm chips are ready in 2022, with the advent of a new chip, Meteor Lake.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:47 pm to UltimateHog
quote:
I read no desktop 10nm at all the other day.
Heard this for months, maybe a year.
I believe it was too aggressive. Remember their 10nm is closer to TSMC's 7nm. For what I remember last year they could never get quality yields since the manufacturing process just doesn't work with that architecture. Full of anomalies, which just give you leaky chips. Leaky chips don't clock well, chips that don't clock well get hot, hot chips kill performance and lifespan.
Yeah, those things might not ever come to market.
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