re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Isn't a 2070 like 499?

Isn't a 2070 better than a 1080 performance? Sounds about right.

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Halo: Reach on PC could be with us a lot sooner than we expected. Microsoft has confirmed the PC beta test for Halo Reach is already primed to go live, with Microsoft taking beta sign-ups through the Halo Insider program.

Interestingly, according to Microsoft, this test will be taking place on Steam, although it isn’t clear whether this is instead of, or alongside, a test on the Windows Store.

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What will the MPer look like?

Hey, folks. Please excuse the intrusion, but I have a quick question for you. I intend to upgrade my GPU soon and, following the advice of a different set of internet strangers, I'm leaning toward getting an RTX 2060, in order to get back to playing at 1440p with current releases. Is this wise?

Also, I suppose I should mention that I might want to dabble in VR, at some point.

Hmm, I wouldn't be opposed to going the 2070 route. Any strong feelings, one way or another, on which model to go with?

And I assume that finding a cheaper 1080 Ti will be a challenge, but I'll look into that as well.

I don't have any other experience but I love my EVGA stuff. I got a FTW detuned on stellar deal and it actually OC'd higher than a FTW3. I got lucky though

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detuned

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detuned?

I also love EVGA for GPUs but always stayed away from the boards. Their first attempt into MOBOs was terrible for years and loaded with issues. Around Haswell they began probably supporting. IMO EVGA is the only real enthusiast brand. They have a good community present, great product support and innovative ideas that steadily push the industry forward.

My boards are usually MSI (no dragon) because of great bios updates but think W10 broke their spirit. They seem to have given up. ASUS is probably the best with support (bios updates).

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UltimateHog

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Got another Pixel.

Man the S10 is such a nice piece of hardware but the fckking software. Its terrible, it could be great if Samsung would just get out the way.

and how the fckk do you take good pictures with a Samsung phone?

My Pixel I just point it at my dog and I get decent pics. With this S10 I have trouble just getting it to focus probably.

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 I assume the Black Edition is the base model? 

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Yes.

The white edition offers stability but the black edition is faster.

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Yeah, it's the DT on some of the models. It's a card that couldn't get to base clock of the line but has all the features of a FTW like cooling system.

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I understand.

But that is not the right word or verb. Where you seen this used? Not wrong I guess but it's not what is going on really.

It is probably just really leaky. Can't hold clocks (esp when Turbo'd) without requiring an overvoltage to maintain stability at that clock. Yes, it has a cooler which meets the specs to handle that TDP but the card most likely excited the chip's power draw spec.

So it will OC just fine, maintain stability and control therms but I bet it draws a little more power.

Edt: Its the exact same card. If you want the higher base clocks (why would you, game will turbo if within the thermal envelope) you can just flash the card to a true EVGA FTW.

Good purchase.

Edt2: When did EVGA start using this DT/detuned? It is the wrong verb in this case because the firmware is tuned. It is tuned to meet spec.

Edt3: I will be up all night now. Have a feeling this was created to reduce RMAs. Haven't seen that yet but I bet. Just based on the EVGA store over the years. Bstock which are mostly RMAs, came with lower clocks most of the time.

Edt4: Another thought..

So "detuned" cards from EVGA just used to be cards with stock clocks but had EVGA's blower or dual fan coolers.

Why even call it a FTW? The cooler is most likely no different than other coolers on other EVGA gpu lines.

That is very confusing to consumers. FTW/KingPin/etc represents an expected performance level. Factory OCs are sucker buys for 3rd parties to apply an additional 10-15% markup to cards. When that GPU's chip left the nVidia fab it meant spec. Stock clocks aren't the ceiling, they are spec'd to a TDP based on product segmentation. Meaning that they have some headroom, the cards aren't "redlining".

But 3rd parties have slim profit margins and it is a cheesy way to increase profit.