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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:35 am to
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:35 am to
Still rocking the 5960x
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 9:32 pm to
Hoping someone here can save me the research time -- a friend wants me to build him a small form factor workstation. Higher-end CPU with some standard overclocking, low-end graphics card. MicroATX or mITX, and overall needs to be quiet.
Just looking for the ideal SFF case and CPU cooler recommendations these days.

TIA

Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 9:52 pm to
The problem with SFF is that there are many sizes of "SFF" cases.

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PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.39 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($172.61 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($190.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($106.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($117.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($189.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design - Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1221.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-13 22:50 EDT-0400


This is with a Fractal Define Nano S, one of the best SFF cases, but one of the biggest SFF cases.

EDIT: I threw a bunch of storage options in there for you/him to pick from.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 9:53 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 9:56 pm to
I don't need help with config, just want a cool and quiet SFF case and CPU cooler since I rarely work with SFF. That's why I gave the range of sizes from mATX to ITX. Size is flexible, just smaller than ATX.

EDIT: You didn't even recommend a cooler.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 9:58 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 9:57 pm to
The 2700 comes with a cooler, which allows some decent overclocking with a stock cooler, but I can look up some other aftermarket air coolers if you want.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 9:59 pm to
I wouldn't associate stock cooler with quiet (though maybe Ryzen is the exception), and also not going AMD.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:03 pm to
Okay. Well my buddy just built a PC with a 7820x and he used the Noctua DH15. Pretty ugly colors, but it does the job well.

Out of curiosity, why not AMD for the workstation? If your not gaming, a 2700/2700x is a pretty decent option.

EDIT: Only thing with Noctua coolers is that they are kinda expensive compared to other brands.

As far as cases, the Carbide Air 240 seems to have pretty decent reviews. You probably can't go wrong with a Fractal Micro ATX case like the Mini C.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:19 pm to
He's an Adobe user, and it's notorious for being terribly inefficient at leveraging more than a few cores. Prefers fast cores over more cores. I'm showing him multiple configs at different budgets, and I'll probably throw in a Ryzen build. But ultimately it's up to him, and neither one is the wrong choice.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:25 pm to
I love Noctua coolers. They are in every build but my main rig. I use a D15 in 2 of my rigs. For some odd reason I like the colors. Maybe because for years they made the only good fans outside of Typhoons.

Just upgraded my FreeNAS build with a 2700. Maybe he just wanted real performance and had the budget? Single core IPC is still important.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:34 pm to
Noctua makes awesome stuff. I have two of their 120 mm fans in my build right now. Super quiet and high quality.

I just dont like the colors
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:52 pm to
Lian li pc-tu100b is a badass itx case. Smallest case I've ever built in. Can fit a gtx 1070/1080 mini
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 1:43 am to
That looks nice. He's gonna hate that handle though.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 2:34 am to
quote:

I just dont like the colors

They are ugly. But beautiful all at the same time.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 11:22 am to
It just doesn't match anything.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:13 pm to
I loved the handle

I had a little monitor I could throw in my booksack and basically use the thing as a laptop
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:06 pm to
I seriously had a vivid dream last night about motherboards.

The dream was about how we won't see anymore red and black Mobo combos. One can only wish.

Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 4:04 pm to
Third-party audit reveals AMD drivers are the most stable for gamers

Glad AMD finally gets some good PR for how good their drivers have been for awhile now, really ever since Crimson.

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Today, independent software quality assurance experts QA Consultants release a new report determining AMD has the most stable driver in the graphics industry. AMD systems passed 401 out of 432 tests while Nvidia systems passed 356—equivalent to a pass rate of 93 percent for AMD versus 82 percent for Nvidia.

QA Consultants tested six of AMD’s most popular graphics cards at the high, medium and budget price points, from both the Gaming and Workstation lineups against competing Nvidia GPUs. These include the Radeon RX Vega 64, RX 580 and RX 560 for gaming, and the Radeon Pro WX 9100, WX 7100 and WX 3100 for workstations, using drivers Radeon Software Adrenalin 18.5.1 and Radeon Pro Software Enterprise 18.Q2, respectively

The testing was extensive – QA consultants conducted a four-hour CRASH test on each GPU consecutively, six times a day for twelve days. Completing each test was considered a pass, and the overall stability score was determined from the total number of passes divided by the total number of attempts.

Driver crashes are more than just an inconvenience, they can incur real costs like lost productivity and time. These results reflect AMD’s continued focus on driver stability along with the most requested features and top performance to ensure the best overall Radeon Software experience.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 4:57 pm to
Tube rolling time! Finally got a replacement for the stock Vali 2 tube.

Went with the JJ E88CC gold pin, really good reviews specifically with my amp.

This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 4:58 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 5:46 pm to
You use that amp for gaming or music/media or both?
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 5:52 pm to
Just music/media, have a soundblaster Z sound card I use when gaming.


I'm a little surprised by how big of a difference this new tube made, drastically better than the stock tube.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 5:54 pm
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