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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:57 am to UltimateHog
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:57 am to UltimateHog
Don't those use the U series CPUs and not the HQs? I don't see why you would compare those U series in those laptops to the HQ series in gaming laptops.
Anyway, he, as well as myself, would probably rather see gaming benches than compute (geekbench) benches
Anyway, he, as well as myself, would probably rather see gaming benches than compute (geekbench) benches
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:06 am to bluebarracuda
8th gen HQ is 6 core on mobile just like desktop. Can't really compare the 4 core 7th gen to it (and it's not even out so 
). And from what I understand, the additional cores for laptops is really beneficial. I don't know why anyone spending that kind of money wouldn't get the latest and greatest.
Those are U vs U benchmarks, exact same processors 7th gen vs 8th. You guys gotta remember mobile is nothing like desktop and actually sees large performance and thermal/power improvements year over year, especially these days.
). And from what I understand, the additional cores for laptops is really beneficial. I don't know why anyone spending that kind of money wouldn't get the latest and greatest. Those are U vs U benchmarks, exact same processors 7th gen vs 8th. You guys gotta remember mobile is nothing like desktop and actually sees large performance and thermal/power improvements year over year, especially these days.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 4:18 am
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:47 am to UltimateHog
I have an opportunity to move out of accounting into IT for better money with a promise of paid schooling. What path of courses/certs would you all suggest for someone in the networking environment, assume I know nothing about it?
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:23 pm to UltimateHog
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That's why.
You are a dumbass sometimes.
Its not even comparing the same things.
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Those are U vs U benchmarks, exact same processors 7th gen vs 8th. You guys gotta remember mobile is nothing like desktop and actually sees large performance and thermal/power improvements year over year, especially these days.
What?
Are you retarded?
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:33 pm to LSU Coyote
Are you? Don't talk out of your arse sometimes and I wouldn't have to call you out on being a dipshit so much.
Say it with me SIX CORES 8TH GEN.
There ya go, that wasn't so hard!
Say it with me SIX CORES 8TH GEN.
There ya go, that wasn't so hard!
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:43 pm to UltimateHog
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Are you? Don't talk out of your arse sometimes and I wouldn't have to call you out on being a dipshit so much.
It is a gaming laptop.
Who the fckk cares about 6 cores? The engines aren't even optimized for it. Esp at that low bandwidth.
Please educate yourself. Please.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:44 pm to LSU Coyote
LOL dumbass.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:47 pm to UltimateHog
Please explain yourself.
Why would the new 8th gens benefit you in gaming? Gaming laptops come with 4cores. They aren't U series 7th gens. They are HQ and HK 7th gens.
If you want someone to wait, wait until the spring for new GPUs. Right?
How am I being dumb?
This is the statement of the year.
Why would the new 8th gens benefit you in gaming? Gaming laptops come with 4cores. They aren't U series 7th gens. They are HQ and HK 7th gens.
If you want someone to wait, wait until the spring for new GPUs. Right?
How am I being dumb?
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Those are U vs U benchmarks, exact same processors 7th gen vs 8th. You guys gotta remember mobile is nothing like desktop and actually sees large performance and thermal/power improvements year over year, especially these days.
This is the statement of the year.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:03 pm to LSU Coyote
Keep deflecting because you had no idea 8th gen HQ series is 6 cores. Just wanted to see your excuses after you said they're all 4 cores.
And answer your own question by looking at the desktop jump to 6 cores. Not rocket science.
And answer your own question by looking at the desktop jump to 6 cores. Not rocket science.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:06 pm to UltimateHog
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Keep deflecting because you had no idea 8th gen HQ series is 6 cores. Just wanted to see your excuses after you said they're all 4 cores.
What? I did but what is the big deal about this? Why does it matter for gaming on laptops?
The "all 4 cores" is about the 7th gen CPUs that are paired with laptops. It has nothing to do with 8th gens. Sorry if you took it differently.
Again, it doesn't matter if they are 6 cores anyway. Why do you keep making this a point?
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And answer your own question by looking at the desktop jump to 6 cores. Not rocket science.
Again, what? Please teach me this scaling.
Why does any of that matter to my suggestion?
Edt: What does 6 cores have to do with gaming, esp on a laptop where bandwidth is even lower than desktops?
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:07 pm to LSU Coyote
It does. Keep going though this is great.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:11 pm to UltimateHog
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It does. Keep going though this is great.
How?
So we have some extreme bandwidth situations with some engines that make some use of 6 cores. But, you won't see that in a system running a GTX 1080. Those are for system pushing much more bandwidth through.
You esp wont see it at 1080. Maybe at 1440.
Do you understand how the whole process works? This is why we argue. I'm not sure you understand or read anything outside a consumer level of knowledge on the situation.
Edt: Also go back to the guy asking for gaming laptop reqs. How will waiting 1 month really benefit him? If he should wait, it should be for 4-5 months for new GPUs.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:11 pm to LSU Coyote
There is a lot more to it than a couple of games.
Pot meet kettle.
Pot meet kettle.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:16 pm to UltimateHog
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There is a lot more to it than a couple of games.
Not many, not many at all esp not at that low resolution. Ubisoft's engines are really the only ones that come to mind. At that is at higher resolutions.
It is a bandwidth thing. Some games like Blizzard's engine still really use only 1 core as an example. So IPC is king there.
Edt: What really gets me is the "geekbench" benchmark post. You know better that this BS that it doesn't translate well into gaming performance.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:28 pm to LSU Coyote
Again, no one looking to spend 2K is going to buy worse previous gen products. But keeping be naive to that fact.
Maybe someone will pop in with 3K to build a new PC and you can recommend a G440 and 1060.
Maybe someone will pop in with 3K to build a new PC and you can recommend a G440 and 1060.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:44 pm to UltimateHog
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G440 and 1060
I mean, that's a great budget option.
But obviously for 3k, it's 8700k and dual 1080tis since that's top of the line shite.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:16 pm to bluebarracuda
Holy shite this Intel+Vega chip appears to be a beast wtf I was not expecting this, so glad I waited for CES for the 2 in 1's.
4GB of HBM2, CPU/GPU/HBM are all overclockable.
4GB of HBM2, CPU/GPU/HBM are all overclockable.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:23 pm to UltimateHog
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Again, no one looking to spend 2K is going to buy worse previous gen products. But keeping be naive to that fact.
Naive to what?
What does a 6C/12T mobile CPU get you in gaming over the 4C/8T CPUs we have right now? Again gaming is still mostly depended on floating point performance. CPU and RAM performance comes in more at the higher bandwidths for higher resolution.
My gaming laptop has a 1060 and isn't bottle necked by the 4C CPU, not at 1080p.
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Maybe someone will pop in with 3K to build a new PC and you can recommend a G440 and 1060
You are talking laptops vs desktops now.
Please compare like items. Thanks. =)
Edt: I also would never recommend someone spend $2K on a gaming laptop. The high thermals limit their life and they aren't upgradeable(obviously). The 1060s @ 1080 when played on a 15.6" form factor really is a sweet spot. 1080p @ 15.6" is 141PPI is better than my main rigs 2160 @ 32" with 137PPI.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:29 pm to UltimateHog
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Holy shite this Intel+Vega chip appears to be a beast wtf I was not expecting this, so glad I waited for CES for the 2 in 1's.
I want these in the Surface Laptop really bad. We have the Surface Pro(May 2017) with an i5 which performs fine for the SOs needs in school. But I'm really hoping these chips make it into the next refresh. If not the Surface Pros, the Surface Laptops. I really want a Surface device but not buying into one if I can't do moderate gaming like say D3.
Edt: The SOs Surface Pro is fanless which I hate. The damn thing gets super hot when playing UNO from Ubisoft. UNO.. a card game.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 1/7/18 at 8:33 pm to DoUrden
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I have an opportunity to move out of accounting into IT for better money with a promise of paid schooling. What path of courses/certs would you all suggest for someone in the networking environment, assume I know nothing about it?
DoUrden i'm not sure if anyone who regularly posts in this thread are IT pros.
I'm in Project Controls but develop solutions for companies who are in need of specialized tools for their project. SQL Server and VBA are the only languages I really know. No certs held in anything but a PMP. When i'm not developing, i'm just your everyday cost controller and scheduler.
Edt: What is your interest in IT? Just a change? I can say with an accounting background that any experience with database administration and/or development will be a great combo on a resume.
This post was edited on 1/7/18 at 8:35 pm
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