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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 11/23/15 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 5:34 pm to
Looks pretty solid for the price. I'll throw a couple others your way for comparison, namely ones with a GTX 970 that may make some sacrifices in other areas:
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Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181887 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 5:38 pm to
Damn that MSI is sweet except for the red
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 6:36 pm to
Yeah, not sure who thought that was a good idea.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69420 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:42 pm to
This Crimson software from AMD is a nice improvement.

New bench with Crimson:

This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 11:01 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:30 pm to
So there's a bug in the Crimson drivers that's keeping air-cooled cards at 20% fan and potentially killing some GPUs?

LINK
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:32 pm to
Amd...
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69420 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:37 pm to
No clue mines water cooled.

Just downloaded the update, I love these new drivers and the aesthetics. 10/10. Good performance boost overall, granted a good chunk of that came from OCing the HBM now that voltage is unlocked.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 8:43 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69420 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:43 pm to
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Amd...


quote:

This is, however, not a problem unique to AMD; in 2010, Nvidia published a driver update that had a similar fan controller issue that led to cards overheating and in some cases breaking entirely. Another Nvidia release in 2013 also yielded complaints of overheating and video card destruction.


1>2

#TeamRed
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29422 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:47 pm to
Slight QA oversight...
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69420 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:26 am to
Welp I tried to resist, but I just couldn't.

Just bought a Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 NVMe.

Sold my 500GB 850 EVO to my friend for $120.

I am extremely excited to get this thing.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 5:05 am
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
10273 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 8:33 am to
Any good deals out there on a decent graphics card and/or an intel processor? Long story short, my rig sucks for multitasking (streaming/playing/listening to music) at the same time and I need something more powerful. Doubly, I want to take my old parts and build my son a CPU of his own. He's really big into Minecraft and wants to be able to have all the mods and what not. His current All-In-One PC doesn't have near enough power to run the game, much less any mods.

My current build:

Processor: AMD FX-8320 8 Core Black Edition (OC'd to 4.0 currently)
MOBO: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+
GPU: GeForce GTX 760 2GB
HD: WD 1TB
RAM: 2x8GB - TridentX Series DDR3 SDRAM
CORSAIR Hydro Series H55 Quiet Edition Water/Liquid CPU Cooler 120mm

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What would be the best course of action here? I don't think AMD is right for me anymore because intel is obviously much more powerful. However, I would need a new motherboard, and I don't know if my CORSAIR cooler would fit an intel MOBO. TIA for all the insults and/or help
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56432 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:13 pm to
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Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 NVMe

I just picked one up for better FO4 load times. My 850 Pro wasn't cutting it. I'm excited for my first NVMe device. The drive won't be my OS drive, that still goes to my 256 850 Pro, but the 950 will be utilize for my often played titles.

Also, FO4 SLi profile in today's new nVidia drivers!
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 1:03 pm to
Why don't you scrap the whole thing and start over? The rig, as is, would be more than enough for your son to play minecraft with mods (and other games if he gets tired of minecraft). A real multi-tasking/streaming build is going to cost you more than you paid for your original build. Something like this (list doesn't include a case or cooler):

PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-E ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB SOC Video Card ($283.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.92 @ Amazon)
Total: $969.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-01 13:44 EST-0500

The two biggest priorities out of the part list above are the CPU/Mobo combo and the SSD. Not sure what games you're playing, so the GPU upgrade may or may not be a big deal (but the upgrade is significant). Same for RAM... I just threw 16GB into the part list because DDR3 is cheap again. I went with a last-gen i7 because A) the performance difference is negligible compared to Skylake, and B) the i7-6700K is annoyingly overpriced because of shortages.

The Corsair H55 would fit an Intel build. Not sure whether it uses a separate bracket, but those coolers are always equipped to fit at least the mainstream sockets. You just have to gather up all the hardware it came with and read the instructions for installation on an Intel board.

Assuming your power supply is adequate (what is it?), you could simply remove your current CPU and motherboard and replace it with the above CPU/mobo combo, but I'd recommend the SSD as well, followed by a fresh install of Windows. No matter what, though, if you want your son to have a minecraft rig, you'll have to buy a complete PC one way or another.
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
10273 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:58 pm to
Maybe i'll just wait and slowly buy his parts slowly. What's the cheapest I can pick up a good intel CPU and MOBO?
Posted by oR33Do
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
13561 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:31 pm to
You can always get an Intel G3258 and mobo for less than $120.

It would be more than enough for Minecraft, but it is only a dual core.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:34 pm to
I would recommend not bothering with an upgrade to Intel until you can afford the 4.0 GHz i7. So, $400+ for the combo unless you can get a cheaper used 4790K.

Although, I'm not totally sure if the bottleneck is where you think it is. If you're trying to stream with unreasonable settings, an i7 isn't going to make things better. If it's simply an issue of GPU bottlenecking or a poorly optimized game that runs about the same on any hardware, a new CPU won't help.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Member since Apr 2010
27652 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

LSU Coyote

I was purging my PSN friends list a little and saw we are friends. When is the last time you turned your PS4 on?
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 4:50 pm
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
10273 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:23 pm to
Here is pretty much the best way I can describe the bottlenecking:

OBS takes up quite a bit of CPU processing simply because it has to encode the video pulled from the capture device and then push it to Twitch. Obviously my stream program is running in the background so that adds to it. Then I have to have my bot program open to monitor the chat and what not and by then my PC is running at about 30-40% CPU usage. Then for some unknown reason it will spike to 95-100% usage for about 5-10 seconds and then drop back down.

As far as my stream settings go this is what I run:

x264 encoder with CBR and CBR padding enabled
Max bitrate is set to 1900 kb/s
My resolution is 1280x720 with 30 FPS and no downscaling

This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 5:26 pm
Posted by oR33Do
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
13561 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:55 pm to
You use something like Ankbot, correct?

If that runs on your system, why not use nerdbot as it runs on someones server?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 7:25 pm to
New nvidia driver is shite. Broke SLI in Battlefront.
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