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re: Official Warzone 1.0 Thread - Moving MW2 and WZ 2.0 Discussion to the New Official Thread

Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:54 am to
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So you’re saying that it creates an advantage..



Of course it does, over no aim assist. But having a mouse is more of one.

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Look up.


So your overall stance on this is aim assist is an advantage for console over k/bm.

Also that FPS and FOV do not matter?


Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:01 pm to
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And the SBMM helps level out the players. So if there WAS any sort of advantage that drastically elevated the skill rating of a player, he would be lobbied against higher skilled players to level it out.


So nothing to do with it being based around console. Just players skill period.

I stated that earlier as well, SBMM will end up putting you somewhere around your play level anyways. I agree there.

Problem is when you are at the top of the player tier. It's just a sweat fest.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:04 pm to
Woof a war started.

Controllers have advantage in close quarters and KBM have advantage at distance. The type of aim assist controllers have in warzone is a hip fire movement based which is ideal for getting up close. KBM have finer movement in precise shooting.

My whole point was controller players are not at more disadvantage than KBM in warzone.

Let's get one thing straight about FOV. It distorts the view and it's harder to see people at range. It's not as big as advantage as you think. A good bit of streamers don't even use it or its only slightly increased.

Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:07 pm to
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stated that earlier as well, SBMM will end up putting you somewhere around your play level anyways. I agree there


Which is the final nail in the coffin of my point that the advantages of each are negligible.

If you take away SBMM, then I’ll agree that FOV, FPS, and more precise aiming are more of an advantage than aim-assist.

But the SBMM is the equalizer over all of this. Any sort of advantage has been negated over the fact that the it will throw you into a higher skill lobby.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:07 pm to
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Problem is when you are at the top of the player tier. It's just a sweat fest.


SBMM will ruin the game and all games. I've lost interest in Fortnite because of it. I don't like solos and when I'm with a party, they are forced into my lobbies which are must harder.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:09 pm to
I think we need to get something else straight. Console does not equal controller. You can play KBM on console and you can play controller on PC. So a controller player can have fps, FOV, aim assist and everything
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Let's get one thing straight about FOV. It distorts the view and it's harder to see people at range. It's not as big as advantage as you think. A good bit of streamers don't even use it or its only slightly increased.




I thought it was a pretty big advantage in Apex. Which allowed it on console.
Although your point about distance is true.
The ability to see a wider peripheral is greater imo.

I am done.
Like I said it does not matter to me, I can play no crossplay and I choose to. Just funny to me how PC guys can say how superior FPS, FOV, controls are on PC one minute but its negligible when it is about skill. Not saying that was anybody here.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:15 pm to
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Which is the final nail in the coffin of my point that the advantages of each are negligible.

If you take away SBMM, then I’ll agree that FOV, FPS, and more precise aiming are more of an advantage than aim-assist.

But the SBMM is the equalizer over all of this. Any sort of advantage has been negated over the fact that the it will throw you into a higher skill lobby.


Not exactly. There is a limit to how high you can go. Eventually you are in a pool of nothing but the best players and every advantage matters.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:20 pm to
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SBMM will ruin the game and all games. I've lost interest in Fortnite because of it. I don't like solos and when I'm with a party, they are forced into my lobbies which are must harder.


Ruins it for us.
But sadly 90% of players are not that good.
And data shows this helps retain them.
It isn't going anywhere and the success of MW will just make it the standard going forward.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:21 pm to
Bud I’m a ps4 guy
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:26 pm to
I didn't jump into the conversation addressing what you said either. Also said I was not talking about you in the previous post.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:32 pm to
fair enough. But you did use some of the same vocabulary that I’ve been using.

And anyone who IS claiming it to be negligible because of just player skill then that is a poor argument.
Posted by KBeezy
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 4:18 pm to
PSN: LSUNC2008
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 5:15 pm to
Rumor going around that MW2 remastered is dropping tomorrow

eurogamer
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 5:18 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:27 pm to
“No Russian” walkthrough from the remaster.

LINK
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:08 am to
Back to back BR wins tonight and a few top 5's and a 2nd.

18 kill match on one.

on Cross platform with the PC people
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 12:10 am
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:26 am to
I wish I was good enough to win more occasionally. Main problem I have is not knowing exactly what I’m doing.
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:22 pm to
Anyone in a regimen? I’m thinking of starting, if not already started, a TDGB regimen at least get a group of players that would actually be good to win and play objectives.

Any thoughts or is this dumb?
Posted by Run Ultra
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:02 pm to
I would join
I created one already with the clan tag STDB all me and my buddies are in
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:50 pm to
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I’m thinking of starting, if not already started, a TDGB regimen at least get a group of players that would actually be good to win and play objectives.


do it, i'll join
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