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Posted on 7/15/18 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/15/18 at 8:46 pm to
Wouldn't that be the same?

Show up after wins disappear after losses, pretty sure that's the normal saying. We'll call you DaleDenton.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 7/15/18 at 8:51 pm to
Except TSM doesn't go on multi-week long losing streaks so one of those (or both) are you just spouting more bullshite.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/15/18 at 8:57 pm to
You're right, they go on multi-split long losing streaks now.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 7/15/18 at 9:16 pm to
Oh you
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/15/18 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 7:20 am to
This thread is turning gayer than the Soccer Board.
Posted by bubbz
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:14 pm to
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UltimateHog



quote:

Show up after wins disappear after losses, pretty sure that's the normal saying. We'll call you DaleDenton.


I know you’re not calling someone else out for the same shite you’ve done before.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:23 pm to
What's going on?
I just heard from rift rivals that TL was the only one that was any good.

Shame. Hauntzer and Bjerg used to be world class.
What's happened?
Posted by bubbz
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:41 pm to
NALCS is terrible, nothing to see here
Posted by SBvital
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

I just heard from rift rivals that TL was the only one that was any good.


They pick and choose the games the win they are so good.

quote:

What's happened?

1. TSM made questionable lateral move changes last year to try to get international success. Current team has no synergy and is really inconsistent.
2. Meta is crazy, which results in players not playing champions they have played in the past.
3. Bjerg is still very passive in a said meta that really needs aggression. Just in a slump.
4. (Branching off #1) TSM signed a "project" in Mikeyeung who was solid on a bad team previously, totally hasn't worked out. Currently playing with an Academy league jungler.

May have missed some stuff. Just wanted to try to reply before "They're just bad" get's thrown in.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

What's going on?
I just heard from rift rivals that TL was the only one that was any good.


Yeah that's what all the other teams say, but if they don't play standard and try new stuff it's anyone's guess.


They did the same in spring split against weak teams, it's good practice and a good strategy. TSM fans don't know what either of those things are anymore.

And then in playoffs they just went standard and went undefeated to the championship.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted by SBvital
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:36 pm to
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They did the same in spring split against weak teams, it's good practice and a good strategy. TSM fans don't know what either of those things are anymore.


I know exactly what they are doing by picking that type of comp. I just like to give you a hard time about it.

You just make it seem like they didn’t care about that game at all, and losing in an awful way like that doesn’t matter. That was embarrassing losing like that to “a bad team.” There really isn’t any other way to describe it, and if they really were laughing during the comps and trolling during the game where they are getting their arse beat, it makes it look even worse on them. It makes it easy to cheer against a team like that.

You can throw shade at TSM now that I’ve told it like it is, I can take it.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:56 pm to
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3. Bjerg is still very passive in a said meta that really needs aggression. Just in a slump.
This is crazy to me. Faker and Uzi get so much praise by other players because they are always pressuring, always aggressive.

I know Bjerg has alot of responsibility to carry the team, but you would think he has enough skill to push his advantage.
Posted by SBvital
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:38 pm to
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I know Bjerg has alot of responsibility to carry the team, but you would think he has enough skill to push his advantage.


Yeah, to give you a good example - TSM ran a funnel strat with him on Taliyah. It's a strat the Koreans use. It's a strat that gives you early priority with Taliyah roams.. he wasn't able to take advantage of that. Top and bot won their lanes, but they couldn't keep that lead into the late game because the Taliyah fell off.

Yesterdays game Bjerg just played flat out bad. Very similar to his Anivia game early in the season. Just never got comfortable.

TSM is relying on him to play well and he isn't. Outside of Zven though, no one is really playing well. Just aren't meshing that great right now.

All in all, they are 4-4, right within the log jam for a playoff spot. If they can find some momentum and find a strat that helps THEM win (and not just what's meta) they can turn it around.
Posted by SBvital
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:45 pm to
I feel like TSM needs to find their identity within this meta and play what makes them comfortable.

You don't see Bjerg playing champions he's known for - like Syndra, Orianna, Ryze, etc. - because they aren't real "meta" or what strategy the team is wanting to run. I would like to see them let him play stuff he's good at and see how he does. Some teams are running champions like that and are having some decent results.

His two top played this year are the new Irelia and Darius and he's 4-0 on those champs. Irelia was nerfed pretty good recently though.

Mikeyeung not working really set them behind a split. Grig has really not been that bad of a replacement, but they essentially wasted a split trying to get him worked in as their jungler and it didn't work out.

Mithy is nearing the end of his career and it's showing. "Washed up" is being thrown around reddit a lot and it may be true. He pretty much inted the first 2-3 weeks.

I fully expect TSM to replace Mithy and find a permanent jungle to go with Hauntzer, Bjerg, and Zven after this split.

Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 4:59 pm to
They need to quit fricking around with the jungle role, Santorin/Sven/MY/Grig. Just import one already.

Seeing tons of people say they need to go grab Meteos, and he'd be a solid upgrade to try and salvage this year.

Imagine if Regi said alright frick it, this is clearly not working lets go acquire Smoothie and Meteos.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 5:16 pm
Posted by SBvital
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 6:43 pm to
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Imagine if Regi said alright frick it, this is clearly not working lets go acquire Smoothie and


I’m down.

Is there like rules on trades or pickups? I don’t see Meteos starting over Santorin and who knows about Smoothies status.

I think a move like that could cause a big shakeup. Doubt it happens tho.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 6:47 pm to
Yellowstar 2.0 on Mithy.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 6:48 pm to
Don't believe so, roster lock is week 9 I believe, so before that you can basically trade anyone.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:37 am to
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