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Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:07 pm to Greace
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who do you replace them with
They should have kept WT. I'm not sure why they let him go in the first place.
I'm ok with DL. He just needs to go to lane and be DL.
That is what I miss about the old TSM (OddOne, Xspecial, WT). They went to lane, handled business, knew when laning phase was over and proceeded to dictated the game no matter what.
This new team, coaching staff just seems slow, reactionary and clueless in games. With more parity in NA LCS now, you can't be that kind of team and expect to win consistently.
Also not a fan of the Yellowstar pick up.
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:08 pm to Greace
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they have serious communication problems
I'm not saying they don't. I just don't see how you don't correct that issue easily.
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:09 pm to dcrews
quote:This 100000000000x. It was blatantly clear that Loco was the issue. Turtle was a fricking god before he got there. I don't know why they let Locodoco have a say in the tryouts if they were going to fire him anyway. Regi has been gold with most of his moves, but that was the biggest blunder since Gleeb and it's far and way the biggest one ever.
They should have kept WT. I'm not sure why they let him go in the first place.
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:09 pm to dcrews
I dont think Turtle was the answer. He seemed gutted on TSM. Feel like he just really needed a break from that team and a chance to go back to himself. Yellowstar never impressed me when it was announced. I have watched the fnatic teams and they werent winning because of Yellowstar
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:11 pm to Greace
quote:Under Locodoco. Loco wanted to over-macro the game and play reactionary and patient. That's not Turtle. Now that they want to get aggressive by bringing in Sven, Turtle would have been much more at home in his old playstyle.
He seemed gutted on TSM.
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:12 pm to Greace
quote:TSM could literally buy anyone they wanted. I don't think you understand how lucrative the brand is.
Name them. Please. Ill sit and wait. You want Gosu?
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:14 pm to Greace
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a chance to go back to himself.
I can't definitively say that any one thing about TSM last split was Loco's fault, but I can say with 100% confidence that Turtle looking average during Loco's tenure is 100% on Loco.
Turtle is going to go hard every game, every week. TSM's big picture game wasn't about that though, so he struggled.
Look at him on IMT now. They let him be himself and he is KILLING it.
I don't think DL is bad, but WT is better when the system you run as a team allows him to be himself in game.
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Yellowstar
I would surmise TSM wanted a shot caller, which is why they brought him in. I'm not entirely sure it's playing out well thus far.
This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:14 pm to Drewbie
You keep saying under Locodoco. But its the same thing as other sports. He just needed to get out of the TSM house.
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:15 pm to Drewbie
We cant buy anybody we want though. We are full on imports.
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:16 pm to Greace
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We are full on imports.
We could probably found an equal replacement in NA for Yellowstar
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:16 pm to Drewbie
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Under Locodoco. Loco wanted to over-macro the game and play reactionary and patient. That's not Turtle.
Yet Loco is doing quite well as the TL head coach and doesn't play that style at all, as evidenced in this game.
So either Loco adapted his coaching style, or TSM had more issues than just the head coach.
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:17 pm to dcrews
I would wager that regi is looking hard at yellowstar. I honestly expect a roster change by the end of the split.
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:18 pm to UltimateHog
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So either Loco adapted his coaching style
I think it's this.
From watching the games every week and watching TSM Legends, you could tell Loco's gameplan didn't suit WT's play style.
It doesn't make Loco a "bad" coach nor more than it makes WT a "bad" player.
I think Loco learned from his experience with TSM and adapted. Allowing piglet to do his thing and planning around him playing his game, is a smart move by Loco.
I wish he would have had that epiphany during his TSM tenure.
ETA: Loco and Bjerg also had some major issues between each other.
Logistically Loco brought a lot of positives to TSM, but he and TSM weren't a great fit together.
This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:18 pm to Greace
quote:I would much rather use an import on an adc than a support. Adrian tried out for TSM in the offseason. Boom. There's our support. Even a mechanical upgrade to boot. Now go buy an elite adc.
We are full on imports.
This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:18 pm to UltimateHog
quote:Yeah 5th in NA.
Yet Loco is doing quite well as the TL head coach
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:19 pm to dcrews
These Sports Psychologists are going to start making bank, I read that that guy is like 12-0 now after a team brings him in, and TL goes 2-0 after he comes in for a week.
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:20 pm to Drewbie
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Yeah 5th in NA.
With 3 rookies...pretty frickin' good.
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:20 pm to UltimateHog
quote:Means close to nothing in League. Turtle got a pentakill in his first LCS game ever. If you're good, you're good. The only people that can't adapt are people with issues like performance anxiety.
With 3 rookies
This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 2/28/16 at 5:21 pm to UltimateHog
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TSM had more issues than just the head coach.
The only constants now are Regi and Bjerg. Everything and everyone else is new.
Maybe players psychologically change their approach to things because of the TSM brand. Pressure maybe? I dunno, but something definitely isn't right.
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