re: Official League of Legends Thread

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Vi is basically dependent on landing the q. If you don't, you might as well walk away.
Eh...not necessarily. Pre-6, sure.

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i thought this was clear.
Guess it wasn't. I meant you have to land q pre-6.

cassiOPeia

It still stuns, but knockup durations aren't reduced by tenacity like stuns are.

Most likely a bug that will get fixed. The knockup of his q and knock back of his ult are pretty fundamental to his kit.

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The knockup of his q and knock back of his ult are pretty fundamental to his kit.

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So his rolling your face on the keyboard.

To me, getting off 1-2 successful ganks, pre-6 does more to help my laners than getting 6 sooner. Especially if the other jungler is gank heavy.

Plus, that bonus gold let's me get more damage. (Obviously )

You getting 6 sooner helps your lanes because you having ult is a guaranteed flash and/or kill when you gank. It's not your job to win the lanes for them. Obviously early ganks help, but like I said before, unless the conditions are damn near perfect for a gank, I'm not trying one pre 6. Her cc is extremely unreliable before 6 and you run the risk of easily getting counterganked if you try to force a gank that's 50/50. It's not like it takes long to hit 6 anyway. I think it's 2 clears of your jungle with a little farm in between to hit 6 now. That might take 6-7 minutes. Even if your lanes fall behind in that time, a successful gank with ult completely turns any kind of lead you can get in 6 minutes around.

You fail one or two of those ganks and it's going to be a hell of a lot longer than 30 seconds.

Think what you want man.

Vi has great pre 6 ganks.

the issue I have with vi is its a pretty high risk/high reward move to gank pre-6 with vi.


If you have good decision making, positioning, and teammates, its prolly worth it over the course of multiple games to gank with vi pre-6.

but if that gank fails or worse, you die, youre a useless sack of shite for most of the game as you fall behind.

I've had ganks pre-6 where I go in to set up a gank and land the Q but the adc and support just walk away and say "we didnt expect you to go in" after.

you can just grind out jg like its an mmo till 6 and avoid that, but then you miss out on pressure and at that point you prolly shoulda picked a different jungle.

In premades, I have no problem ganking early with her but in soloq at shite elo where I reside till I do placements... meh