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re: NCAA Football 13
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:09 am to Roaad
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:09 am to Roaad
Do me a favor and articulate a post stating your exact problem with the game. No smart arse responses and retorts, and don't say "they need to fix the same stuff from 10 and 11. Enlighten me as to what that stuff is. I'll be waiting
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:14 am to FleurDeLonestar
quote:You aren't reading my posts.
You have really only stressed two things.
I have pointed out several flaws that have plagued the game for a long while.
quote:So asking them to fix it. . .irks you?
If you don't like RTG, don't play it
quote:Exactly. This is why they aren't fixing the things wrong with the game.
In this day and age, graphics sell. Of course they are going to prioritize it.
Be honest, if they prettied up the graphics again, and everything else stayed the same, you'd still buy it.
I know you would.
quote:No, it isn't. There are a few improvements. Well, only one improvement.
This is not the same game that it was 5 years ago.
They fixed zone coverage, somewhat. That's it.
Man coverage is worse.
Everything else is the same. Still have LB's with 8-foot verts, DB's that can phase through WR's, QB logic is nonsensical, OL can lock up the DL all day, rubber-band AI, WR's that inexplicably peel off of routes with the ball in the air, QB throwing directly at a DB not even close to the WR you selected. . .
And that's just gameplay problems. I used to be really good at the game, because I would account for these flaws when I played.
I reached a point, where I just got fed up with the same flaws in every new release.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:19 am to JAE20
quote:Jesus Christ, dude. . .
Do me a favor and articulate a post stating your exact problem with the game.
I'll just quote all my posts in this thread, where I have done just that.
Just for you, bruh:
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I wish DB's could play man. I wish LB's couldn't jump 6 feet in the air, intercepting a pass. I wish DL didn't intercept so many passes.
I wish collision detection understands that DB's can't really phase through WR's to intercept passes.
I wish opposing QB's would tuck and run after a few seconds, if the play breaks down.
I wish the OL blocking was more realistic. . .rarely giving a QB 10 seconds to throw, regardless of competition. Bama can't block Kent state that long on every play.
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Recruiting in dynasty is a drag.
quote:
If you are a defensive player, CPU calls the play and runs/passes away from you.
If you are a QB/WR, you get nothing but running plays called. . .opposite for RB's.
quote:
They fixed zone coverage, somewhat. That's it.
Man coverage is worse.
Everything else is the same. Still have LB's with 8-foot verts, DB's that can phase through WR's, QB logic is nonsensical, OL can lock up the DL all day, rubber-band AI, WR's that inexplicably peel off of routes with the ball in the air, QB throwing directly at a DB not even close to the WR you selected. . .
And that's just gameplay problems. I used to be really good at the game, because I would account for these flaws when I played.
And none of those problems are new problems. You can find complaints about the above issues on the EA forums going back to 2008, at a minimum.
This post was edited on 2/13/12 at 9:22 am
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:27 am to Roaad
I'll also point out that MW3 and Madden 12 are the only game sequels that are worse offenders than NCAA.
MW3 repackaged the exact same game, with a map pack.
Madden actually severely broke their game. Madden tends to be a leading indicator of where NCAA is going, too. . .so prepare your anus.
MW3 repackaged the exact same game, with a map pack.
Madden actually severely broke their game. Madden tends to be a leading indicator of where NCAA is going, too. . .so prepare your anus.
This post was edited on 2/13/12 at 9:28 am
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:34 am to Roaad
quote:Db's do play man, almost to good sometimes. I'd like to see you cover someone who runs a 4.3 by yourself with no help. GOODLUCK. Every CB isn't Revis buddy.
I wish DB's could play man. I wish LB's couldn't jump 6 feet in the air, intercepting a pass. I wish DL didn't intercept so many passes.
quote:That's a valid argument there, but it does not happen very often.
I wish collision detection understands that DB's can't really phase through WR's to intercept passes.
quote:We have discussed this already...which makes all of your arguments a little less valid but I will continue
I wish opposing QB's would tuck and run after a few seconds, if the play breaks down.
quote:Once again that rarely happens, and I get pressure a good bit in this game. Just ask anyone on the gaming board. I'm sure they get pressure as well.
I wish the OL blocking was more realistic. . .rarely giving a QB 10 seconds to throw, regardless of competition. Bama can't block Kent state that long on every play.
quote:If it aint broke don't fix it...even though there MAY be some nice tweeks in 13
Recruiting in dynasty is a drag.
quote:RTG sucks as a defensive player...we have discussed the offensive side already. Become team captain pick your plays.
If you are a defensive player, CPU calls the play and runs/passes away from you. If you are a QB/WR, you get nothing but running plays called. . .opposite for RB's.
quote:MEH, zone coverage is ok.
They fixed zone coverage, somewhat. That's it.
quote:Man coverage worse....
Man coverage is worse. Everything else is the same. Still have LB's with 8-foot verts, DB's that can phase through WR's, QB logic is nonsensical, OL can lock up the DL all day, rubber-band AI, WR's that inexplicably peel off of routes with the ball in the air, QB throwing directly at a DB not even close to the WR you selected. . . And that's just game-play problems. I used to be really good at the game, because I would account for these flaws when I played.
, Now there are sometimes alignment issues in certain formations. I used to scream about lb's as well but next time you do watch the replay closely and realize you attempted to throw a bullet pass over his head. Not a very high jump.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:36 am to Roaad
quote:But EA is actually hiring guys to make NCAA better
Madden actually severely broke their game. Madden tends to be a leading indicator of where NCAA is going, too. . .so prepare your anus.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:45 am to JAE20
quote:I disagree.
Db's do play man, almost to good sometimes.
They peel off routes, and run at absurd distances from the WR. And nobody bites on pump fakes. . .unless you are playing a live opponent.
quote:Happens more often than not in the red zone.
That's a valid argument there, but it does not happen very often.
quote:No, you objected, I countered. The argument is still valid.
We have discussed this already
quote:If I am playing Bama, as an example, against Kent State. . .I can snap the ball and damn near stand there for 10 seconds before looking for an open receiver.
Once again that rarely happens, and I get pressure a good bit in this game.
quote:They do keep "fixing it", making it more of a drag. . .slower. . .and more tedious.
If it aint broke don't fix it...
quote:Because it is realistic that a team captain gets to call games?
RTG sucks as a defensive player...we have discussed the offensive side already. Become team captain pick your plays.
That was a band-aid, not a fix.
It was insulting.
quote:It still sucks, it's just better than 2011.
MEH, zone coverage is ok.
quote:with his back turned, running away from the path of the ball. . .stops, warps back to the spot. . .incredible vert. . .INT or batted pass.
I used to scream about lb's as well but next time you do watch the replay closely and realize you attempted to throw a bullet pass over his head. Not a very high jump.
shite happens 3-4 times every game.
And a bullet pass to a spot 30 yards down field, is not going to be an easy jump for a LB 5-10 yards down field.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:46 am to JAE20
quote:Gameplay-wise Madden is what you get in NCAA the next year.
But EA is actually hiring guys to make NCAA better
Posted on 2/13/12 at 10:00 am to Roaad
quote:
I wish DB's could play man. I wish LB's couldn't jump 6 feet in the air, intercepting a pass. I wish DL didn't intercept so many passes.
My DB's play man very well most of the time. Unless playing JAE The LB's don't actually jump, they stick their arms up, nice try though. DL rarely intercepts me unless it's off a ridiculous swat that goes straight up.
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I wish collision detection understands that DB's can't really phase through WR's to intercept passes.
Doesn't happen all that often. If all you're throwing is curl routes you will run into this more often. Pick different plays.
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I wish opposing QB's would tuck and run after a few seconds, if the play breaks down.
They do. All the time in fact, I doubt you play on heisman because this is one of the most frustrating things about the game, sometimes they tuck and run on a designed pass play right off the bat, get off rookie mode and you'll find out. James Franklin from Mizzou is the worst offender.
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I wish the OL blocking was more realistic. . .rarely giving a QB 10 seconds to throw, regardless of competition. Bama can't block Kent state that long on every play.
I get great pressure by using the DT, ask JAE. I ate his offensive line up the other day with 86 overall undersized DT when his OL averages a 93ish rating.
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Recruiting in dynasty is a drag.
It's not bad at all, gotta work for a good team. Recruiting in real life takes time, you want realism, yet bitch about something that is fairly accurate. It technically should take longer to do. Get over it.
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If you are a defensive player, CPU calls the play and runs/passes away from you.
Happens all the time in real life, right? Think PP7. Realistic aspect that you bitch about.
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If you are a QB/WR, you get nothing but running plays called. . .opposite for RB
Deal with it. Like I said, if you don't like it don't play it.
Overall, most of your points are misguided. It sounds like you're butthurt because you suck at the lowest level of difficulty. I know I'm not the best at this game, and that some things could make it so much better. Go hang out on the rant where you belong. TIA.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 10:05 am to FleurDeLonestar
quote:You basically regurgitated the other kid's post.
FleurDeLonestar
So you can find my answers right above your post.
quote:Exactly my point. That's why I stopped playing NCAA.
Like I said, if you don't like it don't play it.
Hard to justify buying it every year, for essentially a roster update.
quote:Why do you think that, exactly?
It sounds like you're butthurt because you suck at the lowest level of difficulty.
Are you trying to insult me because I have hurt your feelings?
I actually used to be really good. Always played at Heisman. . .and my online record before I quit was around 40-5, give or take.
This post was edited on 2/13/12 at 10:09 am
Posted on 2/13/12 at 10:13 am to Roaad
I'll be back later to answer the one kid's more reasoned posts. . .
Posted on 2/13/12 at 10:21 am to Roaad
Hurt my feelings? I basically gave my opinion and gave you examples of where you are wrong and I am right, but go ahead and deflect. I think you suck because the problems you are having come from someone that doesn't know how to play the game.
I bet you were good you could beat anybody here right?
I bet you were good you could beat anybody here right?
Posted on 2/13/12 at 12:17 pm to FleurDeLonestar
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Posted on 2/13/12 at 1:22 pm to sbr2
quote:
I'll also point out that MW3 and Madden 12 are the only game sequels that are worse offenders than NCAA.
So the three most popular games are not good enough?
Just do what you been saying and not buy them. you will pu EA out of business in no time.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 1:32 pm to Tyger1919
quote:I was waiting for someone to bring that up
So the three most popular games are not good enough? Just do what you been saying and not buy them. you will pu EA out of business in no time.
This post was edited on 2/13/12 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 2/13/12 at 2:21 pm to JAE20
I thought y'all said playing on AA was better cause Heisman just made your team worse?
Posted on 2/13/12 at 2:25 pm to Roaad
I'll jump in and say that after the patches and adjusting the sliders, I'm pretty damn pleased with the game. You say you read OperationSports "religiously," so try implementing some of the sliders for Heisman levels.
DBs do play man and they play it well. I've had many DBs knock away passes or tackle a guy right when the ball gets there. Just because your corner is higher rated doesn't mean he can't get beat.
With the new sliders, LBs and DL do not intercept or swat passes nearly as much. In fact, you see several passes going over their heads like in a real game.
Collision detection is most likely one of the most difficult programming pieces. If a few blips here and there turns you off, so be it.
Opposing QBs run and scramble like crazy since the new patch. Try it.
OL blocking is also pretty realistic since the new patch and adjusted sliders. 3-4 sacks a game is pretty damn normal. I typically get that amount plus numerous rushes and knockdowns.
Recruiting in dynasty is a drag? You want the game to be realistic but then you say recruiting is a drag? How much time do you think coaches spend evaluating players and recruiting? Hell, I wish there was more to recruiting, like videos of the prospect, stats to high school seasons, actual combine-like numbers, etc.
DBs do play man and they play it well. I've had many DBs knock away passes or tackle a guy right when the ball gets there. Just because your corner is higher rated doesn't mean he can't get beat.
With the new sliders, LBs and DL do not intercept or swat passes nearly as much. In fact, you see several passes going over their heads like in a real game.
Collision detection is most likely one of the most difficult programming pieces. If a few blips here and there turns you off, so be it.
Opposing QBs run and scramble like crazy since the new patch. Try it.
OL blocking is also pretty realistic since the new patch and adjusted sliders. 3-4 sacks a game is pretty damn normal. I typically get that amount plus numerous rushes and knockdowns.
Recruiting in dynasty is a drag? You want the game to be realistic but then you say recruiting is a drag? How much time do you think coaches spend evaluating players and recruiting? Hell, I wish there was more to recruiting, like videos of the prospect, stats to high school seasons, actual combine-like numbers, etc.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 2:34 pm to gallagherkck
:nb4youregurgitatedsomeoneelsespoint:
Posted on 2/13/12 at 2:40 pm to FleurDeLonestar
quote:
:nb4youregurgitatedsomeoneelsespoint:
Well, when the point is true...
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