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Looks like Stalker 2 is a borderline Early Access-quality release

Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:34 am
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67296 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:34 am
What a shame, I was looking forward to this. Guess I'll see how it is in 2 years when its fixed

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I'm not big enough to get our channel & review up there in the pinned post but have been playing it during the review process so happy to answer any questions.

The game has a lot of bugs. Some will dismiss it as Eurojank, or "Yeah that's STALKER bay bee!" And they're right, those little fun bugs are there, corpses flying in to the sky, or legs sticking out the ground, standing in chairs, or disabled NPCs standing and walking normally. Those aren't breaking anything. There are some larger ones involving quests becoming hardlocked, or progress hitting a wall, and those are more problematic as they can cause you frustration beyond fun. I had to restart 3 times, and was unable to score the game because of it.

BUT, I mention this because I wanted to just say, GSC Game World patched the game 5 times during the review period that I was aware of, 2 of them big patches. One so large I had to check if it was the Day 0 and was told no which was insane. They are working at such a pace to fix these issues, and outside of a few choices all of the main bugs are fixable, they're not intrinsic to the design of the game, which is a great thing for the future.

I'm a big fan of the game so I had to control my bias. When it breaks it's frustrating, when it works, it's stunning. Without the bugs I would say this was my game of the year. There wasn't any choices gameplay wise I hated outside of a few AI ones, and even then, those might be bugs, I don't know.


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in brief: we need a little more time with this one, for two main reasons. The first is that Stalker 2 is a pretty sizable game and we've not had all that long with it, so we're giving ourselves some extra breathing room to ensure we've been able to make significant enough progress for a full review.

The second reason, though, is both more pertinent, and more troubling. At time of writing, the early review build of Stalker 2 that was sent to us by developer GSC Game World has several, quite major technical issues. We've been assured that a Day One patch will be launched alongside the game's general release today, and so we want to make sure our appraisal is reflective of the version of the game you'll be playing yourself.

As such, we're currently aiming to publish our review on Friday November 22nd, so you'll be able to read our full thoughts on Stalker 2 then.


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Sadly, Stalker 2 is, by far, the most unstable game we have reviewed in a long time

A repeated bug saw the screen cut to black roughly every 90 seconds. We had to reinstall 150 GB of the game several times, and that’s not including the 160 GB patch that dropped less than 48 hours before the embargo. Lighting elements are broken in some scenarios, there’s a host of audio bugs and we also faced an issue where not one single input would work on the game, including keyboard and mouse or controller, until we forced our computer to turn off.


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Story is disjointed and doesn't develop until very late game
Encumbrance is extremely annoying and the weight limit is too low. There's a quest item that immediately puts you over and he found that very dumb.
Enemy AI is hit/miss. The mutant enemy variety is poor and they simply run at you and do chip damage.
Stealth is completely busted. Enemies have weird vision cones, can see you through walls and get alerted despite executing stealth takedowns.
Survival systems seem kind of half baked. The hunger system affects your aim but is easily overcome by how much food they give you.
The quests and dialog seems to want to play out in very specific ways and punishes you if you do anything that doesn't follow the script like quest givers that freak out if you go out of an invisible zone.
Buggy as shite. Performance is crap even on a 4090
Hopeful that stuff will be fixed but will take time. Possibly months. But loves the vibe and the weapons feel great.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 10:41 am
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
11048 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:37 am to
I’ll play it on Gamepass but definitely sounds like the original.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40336 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:45 pm to
The Skill Up review makes it a wait and see for me. Hell, just the first couple of minutes seeing all of the graphical glitches and jank. No thanks. I'll wait for the mod community to fix it.

I see people saying they will fix the game long term. Will they? The modding community fixed the first couple of games not the game studio.
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
4077 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:01 pm to
Still gonna play tonight.

I am an idiot for not just buying gamepass, what a deal.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
79337 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:05 pm to
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I’ll play it on Gamepass
Posted by Commodore 64
Life's a garden, Dig it.
Member since Dec 2015
76 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:47 am to
To be fair, Stalker 1 and the expansions were buggy as hell.

I expected this and I'm still excited to play.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9947 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:28 pm to
Someday Eastern European developers will learn how to make games with good gameplay mechanics but it is not this day.
Posted by Morgus
The Old City Icehouse
Member since May 2004
9413 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:55 pm to
20 minute shader compile every time I started it. Refunded.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
67575 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:53 pm to
These devs have been through hell though not a normal situation at all. They were based in Kyiv when the Russian invasion began and some of the devs joined the military to help fight and others had to up and flee their homes.

The remaining dev team had to move to the Czech Republic and faced constant cyberattacks from Russia including leaking an entire early internal test build to the public.

I couldn't imagine going through all that just to make a game. Happy to see it sold over a million copies in 2 days.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 12:05 am
Posted by Commodore 64
Life's a garden, Dig it.
Member since Dec 2015
76 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:42 am to
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Someday Eastern European developers will learn how to make games with good gameplay mechanics but it is not this day.



Gameplay and setting/atmosphere are the best parts. Not sure what you're talking about.

Biggest issues are purely technical and engine issues.

I'm about 30 hours in and the only issues I've come across are inconsistencies in the story (no one plays stalker for the story) and a few technical issues. Console has faired better than PC in regards to bugs/glitches though.

But yeah, this is stalker through and through. You either love it or hate it. It isn't Metro, it isn't fallout, and it sure as hell isn't tarkov.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 9:44 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
67575 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 1:45 pm to
Patch 1.0.1 dropped. Lot of fixes. LINK
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9947 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 2:10 pm to
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These devs have been through hell though not a normal situation at all. They were based in Kyiv when the Russian invasion began and some of the devs joined the military to help fight and others had to up and flee their homes.

The remaining dev team had to move to the Czech Republic and faced constant cyberattacks from Russia including leaking an entire early internal test build to the public.

I couldn't imagine going through all that just to make a game. Happy to see it sold over a million copies in 2 days.


People act like Stalker 1 was some paragon of excellent game design and polish when it most certainly was not

Again 10/10 atmosphere, but the gameplay is like stabbing yourself with a knife.

Posted by Commodore 64
Life's a garden, Dig it.
Member since Dec 2015
76 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:56 am to
Finished Stalker 2 yesterday, thoughts:

Story takes an absolute nosedive between the swamps and before SIRCAA. Picks up again. Don't get discouraged during the swamps.

Sincerely one of the best games I've played in the past 5 years. Setting up loadouts to go into the zone is insanely fun, the atmosphere and tension is top notch, and the gunplay is fantastic.

Probably the most fun I've had with an FPS in a REALLY long time, and that says a lot.

Newest patches fixed 90% of the bugs. It's in a great state. Xbox Series X fyi.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 9:57 am
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
4077 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:48 pm to
I played 15 hours in first week and had a blast. Didn't even get out of zone 1.

The missing A-Life was noticeable as spawns were stupid, but other than that I dont have a complaint..

Been busy the last weeks so havent played since any updates.

hope they keep improving.
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4525 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 2:24 pm to
I un installed after 10 min. Walked into a room and literally screen was black. Couldn’t see anything. Everything was buggy as shite
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
67575 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 4:47 pm to
I haven't started it yet but hear good things about the recent updates fixing most things. Think it has had 3 patches now.
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