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re: Japanese people are targeting the historian Ubisoft relied on for their black samurai
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:35 pm to hg
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:35 pm to hg
I won't lie, I attempted it once in Odyssey just to see what would happen. Flirty talk increases and lots insinuated, but that's it.
I'd honestly be fine if the romance options were left out of games altogether. They threw it into Starfield, like with every dialogue option with your companion, the game is saying "go ahead and shoot your shot".
Really, I'm good.
I'd honestly be fine if the romance options were left out of games altogether. They threw it into Starfield, like with every dialogue option with your companion, the game is saying "go ahead and shoot your shot".
Really, I'm good.
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:11 am to sicboy
quote:except we are using a PC from history, and making him something he wasn't. . .which is clearly an affront to Japanese people.
We aren't doing anything different.
All the above is also in the statement.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:14 am to sicboy
It was worse with BG3. The gay wizard would aggressively try to pursue you, even after you turn him down.
Got so bad and rapey, the devs had to patch him.
Got so bad and rapey, the devs had to patch him.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:25 am to Roaad
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except we are using a PC from history, and making him something he wasn't. . .which is clearly an affront to Japanese people.
All the above is also in the statement.
He'll never be able to admit this, because that would require him to acknowledge that people who agree with stuff like this, like he does, are the ones supporting racism.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:36 am to Roaad
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except we are using a PC from history, and making him something he wasn't. . .which is clearly an affront to Japanese people.
Davinci wasn't an assassin.
Alexander Graham Bell didn't invent a zip line.
You think the Italians and English give 2 shits?
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:40 am to imjustafatkid
So taking a historical character and using creative liberties with who he was, something that is the heart and soul of this franchise, is racism?
I bet if you polled most Japanese people and asked them if they cared if a black guy was portrayed as a samauri in a video game, you'd get a lot of blank stares.
I bet if you polled most Japanese people and asked them if they cared if a black guy was portrayed as a samauri in a video game, you'd get a lot of blank stares.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:46 am to sicboy
It’s not what they’re doing really as it’s so much that it’s incredibly obvious and annoying WHY they’re doing it. There’s also a direct correlation link between making a game with those reasons emphasized and being complete shite.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:08 am to td01241
Ok, for real, the problem is that it seems like ANY use of a minority/female/gay or trans character is called out as a woke DEI effort. It's like Charlie Kirk saying any time he gets on a plane and sees a black pilot, he's going to assume it's a DEI hire and he's not qualified. I mean, if you can't see how damaging and bigoted that kind of mindset is, I can't help you.
I'll admit there are some instances where it's just shoehorned into something, but a lot of times they just don't want it to be white males all the time. Plus, for business reasons, you include a larger demographic in your games, that demographic is probably more inclined to get your game. That's just how that works.
Maybe stop trying to be offended on behalf of Japanese culture and let them voice themselves.
I'll admit there are some instances where it's just shoehorned into something, but a lot of times they just don't want it to be white males all the time. Plus, for business reasons, you include a larger demographic in your games, that demographic is probably more inclined to get your game. That's just how that works.
Maybe stop trying to be offended on behalf of Japanese culture and let them voice themselves.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:13 am to sicboy
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So taking a historical character and using creative liberties with who he was, something that is the heart and soul of this franchise, is racism?
It's pretty telling that you have to keep reframing what they did to make your argument seem reasonable. Really says it all.
What Ubisoft did here is racist. People who support it are supporting racism. They have misrepresented Japan, Japanese people, and even black people.
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I bet if you polled most Japanese people and asked them if they cared if a black guy was portrayed as a samauri in a video game, you'd get a lot of blank stares.
Yes, only gamers matter in this conversation.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:13 am to sicboy
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the problem is that it seems like ANY use of a minority/female/gay or trans character is called out as a woke DEI effort. It's like Charlie Kirk saying any time he gets on a plane and sees a black pilot, he's going to assume it's a DEI hire and he's not qualified. I mean, if you can't see how damaging and bigoted that kind of mindset is, I can't help you.
DEI caused this harm, not the people who notice the trend.
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Maybe stop trying to be offended on behalf of Japanese culture and let them voice themselves.
That's what happened. Hate it for ya.
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:50 am to sicboy
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Davinci wasn't an assassin
Not a PC and a historical figure that’s been written extensively about
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Alexander Graham Bell didn't invent a zip line.
Not a PC and a historical figure that’s been written extensively about
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So taking a historical character and using creative liberties with who he was, something that is the heart and soul of this franchise, is racism?
Do you really not see a difference in your previous two examples and the subject of the entirety of the current Shadows situation?
You keep posting this defense and it’s been told to you many times why people are upset, yet you keep avoiding it.
Nobody gives a shite that black and brown or gay people are in games. The DEI problem is because equity is being forced into entertainment and it’s not based in reality. The planet doesn’t consist of equal numbers of black, brown, gay etc etc. Even if you pick a random country. But DEI initiatives would have you believe that’s the case for the sake of equity in your entertainment.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:57 am to Josh Fenderman
Dont forget that Ubisoft is going to have their black samurai banging his boyfriend after a long day of slaughtering the natives with tedious boring gameplay.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:06 am to sicboy
lol I missed these bits
So they shoehorn in a black guy when in reality it should’ve been a Japanese (not a white) guy.
Don’t forget putting rap music in your showcase of black samurai guy. In other words, pandering.
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I'll admit there are some instances where it's just shoehorned into something, but a lot of times they just don't want it to be white males all the time.
So they shoehorn in a black guy when in reality it should’ve been a Japanese (not a white) guy.
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Plus, for business reasons, you include a larger demographic in your games, that demographic is probably more inclined to get your game
Don’t forget putting rap music in your showcase of black samurai guy. In other words, pandering.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:09 am to Josh Fenderman
He’s literally using the “modern audience” brings in more money PR spin. This has been so thoroughly disproven over and over and over at this point it’s just comical when someone talks about unironically. There’s just the audience.
The people who actually believe things should be made for everyone are probably midwits.
The people who actually believe things should be made for everyone are probably midwits.
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 11:11 am
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:10 am to Josh Fenderman
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Don’t forget putting rap music in your showcase of black samurai guy
That wasn't rao. Listen to AC music throughout the series and get back to me.
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it should’ve been
Says who?
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:16 am to td01241
This was a slam dunk for Ubisoft. It should’ve been their AC with the biggest numbers since people have been asking for it for years. Then they let sucker punch beat them to it with what’s likely the better game in GoT. Then there was the reveal trailer
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:20 am to sicboy
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Says who?
Ubisoft’s own precedent that they set?
Middle eastern guy in middle eastern setting
Italian guy in Italian setting
Native American in revolutionary war setting
French guy in French setting
Do I need to go on for you?
Nobody was complaining about DEI with those games. Especially not enough to warrant any 4 page apology letters from Ubi
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:32 am to sicboy
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bet if you polled most Japanese people and asked them if they cared if a black guy was portrayed as a samauri in a video game, you'd get a lot of blank stares.
From my understanding…and it may not be the same as of recent….but Japanese people really aren’t fans of black people. They are just super quiet about it.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 3:48 pm to sicboy
quote:Which one of those was a player character?
Davinci wasn't an assassin.
Alexander Graham Bell didn't invent a zip line.
And also was Davinci being an assassin a cultural appropriation, a debated idea, or any combination of the 2?
Is Bell's invention of the zip line a historically contentious idea? Were zip lines a significant aspect unique to English culture?
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:27 am to sicboy
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Ok, for real, the problem is that it seems like ANY use of a minority/female/gay or trans character is called out as a woke DEI effort. It's like Charlie Kirk saying any time he gets on a plane and sees a black pilot, he's going to assume it's a DEI hire and he's not qualified. I mean, if you can't see how damaging and bigoted that kind of mindset is, I can't help you.
well said.
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