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Issue with Corsair fans not being detected by HUB in iCUE - Fans work, but no RGB effects

Posted on 3/9/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 2:06 pm
For my new PC I bought 6x 120mm CORSAIR iCUE LINK QX120 RGB PWM PC Fans Starter Kit with iCUE LINK System Hub. As of yesterday 3 of my fans no longer display any RGB effects. They're still running, but they don't show up in iCUE software. In iCUE I can see the two system hubs and the other 3 fans, which are still working, but 3 of the fans are now missing. Any ideas as to what could be the issue?

I've barely had this damn PC a month. I want to say there was some flickering I noticed, like the RGB lighting went out very briefly, but then they turned on a few days ago. Could the cable between the fans and the hub be bad or could the issue be with the HUB? The Hub still appears in the iCUE software, it's just not linked with any fans now. And like I said, the fans still run, there's just no RGB lighting running anymore.

Any ideas?
This post was edited on 3/9/24 at 4:29 pm
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12006 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 3:55 pm to
Are you overloading the fan outputs on your motherboard by chance? Sometimes when you put 2-3 or more fans on a motherboard fan pin out or RGB pin out the power consumption is too much for the motherboard especially during startup. I bought a pack of 4 fans and it came with a hub that has a PC power supply input on it which gives the fans the juice they need to run

Also I use icue and Asus armoury crate software for my RGB lighting of various components and sometimes they conflict with each other. Prior to some of the latest updates, I'd have to experience with opening and closing the softwares in a particular order in order to get everything running the way I'd consistently want
This post was edited on 3/9/24 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Are you overloading the fan outputs on your motherboard by chance? Sometimes when you put 2-3 or more fans on a motherboard fan pin out or RGB pin out the power consumption is too much for the motherboard especially during startup.


Honestly, have no idea...I don't think so? I used CyberPowerPC to build the PC, so I'm not really familiar with PC hardware and how everything works. Not a great idea, I know, I've just never delved into it. Each set of 3 fans came with an individual hub, so I'm assuming power isn't an issue. I've contacted Corsair & CyberPowerPC to see what they say.

I may try opening up the PC, unplugging the cable to the fans and/or hub, and plugging it back in to see if that does anything. Unfortunately, I didn't pay attention to the size of the case when I was creating my PC and went with the Lian Evo Dynamic XL full tower case so now I have this 60lb beast to try to handle.

Here's a breakdown of what I ordered:

CABLE: None
CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]
CAS: LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic EVO XL Full-Tower Dual chamber Gaming Case Seamless View Tempered glass on the front & side [No Fan] (Black Color)
CC: None
COOLANT: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i9-14900K 8P/16 + 16E 3.20GHz [Turbo 6.0GHz] 36MB Cache LGA1700
CS_FAN: 6x 120mm CORSAIR iCUE LINK QX120 RGB PWM PC Fans Starter Kit with iCUE LINK System Hub, Black [+229]
DDS: None
FAN: CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT Liquid CPU Cooler - IPS LCD Screen 360mm Radiator - AF120 RGB ELITE Fans [+238]
FREEBIE_MN: None
HDD: 2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO (PCIe Gen4) NVMe 2.0 M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 7450/6900 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 1200/1550k [+156] (Single Drive)
HDD2: None [-75]
HEADSET: None
INSTANTREBATE: Extra $50 Instant off on all Gaming Desktops and Laptops [-50]
KEYBOARD: None [-5]
MEMORY: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5/6000MHz Dual Channel Memory [+60] (CORSAIR DOMINATOR TITANIUM RGB [BLACK] [+150])
MICROPHONE: None
MONITOR: None
MOPAD: None
MOTHERBOARD: MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR5 ATX w/ Wi-Fi 6E, 2.5GbT LAN, (3)PCIe x16,(1)PCIe x1, (4)M.2, (6)SATA
MOUSE: None [-6]
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Windows 11 Home
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 1000 Watts - Corsair RM1000x SHIFT 80 PLUS Gold ATX 3.0 Fully Modular w/ PCIE 12+4Pins Connector for PCIe 5.0 graphics cards [-2]
PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring + LIAN LI STRIMER PLUS V2 24 Pins + Dual 8 Pins V2 Addressable RGB Power extension cables + Controller Set [24Pins Motherboard + Triple 8Pins Video Card [+135]
PROMOSALE1: CyberPowerPC FPS Gaming Mouse Pad [+0] (Large 14x12 Inches)
RECOVERYUSB: Windows 11 Recovery USB [+9]
RUSH: RUSH!!! READY TO SHIP IN 3 BUSINESS DAYS [+79]
SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
USBHD: None
VIDEO: GeForce RTX™ 4090 24GB GDDR6X Video Card (DLSS 3.0) [AI-Powered Graphics] (Single Card)
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 7:31 am to
Good news, fans RGB is magically working again. Put the computer to sleep when I went out yesterday, came home & booted it up and the lights were working. Just turned it on today and they're still going. Fans show up linked to their hub in iCUE. Wonder if it's a cable issue...hopefully it just keeps working. I don't feel like digging in this 60lb monster.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 7:32 am
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:21 am to
Annnddd the fans aren't lighting up again.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22692 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Annnddd the fans aren't lighting up again.



I'm not familiar with the Corsair iCUE system but it doesn't seem like you are alone. I found this on reddit which, all seem to think its a software issue with iCUE.

Reddit thread link

Here is a youtube video with some troubleshooting steps.

Youtube.

I hope one of these works for you.
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:19 pm to
Appreciate the info. I've always used Corsair in the past with no issues, didn't know so many people were having issues with their software.
Posted by DandA
Mandevillian
Member since Jun 2018
826 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:36 pm to
I had this issue last month with my PC. My Montech case came with 3 rgb fans and a hub and I bought 3 more rgb fans for extra ventilation. 2 months after I bought the PC, the pre-installed fans stopped lighting up, but were still spinning just fine. New fans worked just fine, no matter where on the Mobo they were plugged in. After a week of researching and troubleshooting, fricking around with BIOS, ASUS armory crate, different cables and connections,etc. I found out the issue was the hub that came with the case. A quick support email to the manufacturer, and they mailed out a new controller hub. Works perfectly now.

Definitely use Reddit for help. That's where I was ultimately able to find my solution.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:22 pm to
I appreciate the info. I posted on the Corsair forums and got a response. Basically said I don't even need the additional hub and I should just get a bridge wire to connect the other 3 fans to my other hub as it can support up to 14 devices currently and will support 24 in the future.

I also asked about my H150i AIO cooler and getting it to work with iCUE and was told that I had the previous generation cooler that requires a Commander Core, not the Link Hub, to work and then it should show up in iCUE and I'll be able to control the fans/adjust the LCD, etc.

So, I ordered a Commander Core, 2 short 90 degree cables and 1 long iCUE Link cable as well as one additional QX 120 fan to replace the default rear exhaust fan I currently have. I have a Best Buy Geek Squad membership, so once the stuff comes in my plan is to take it there and have them install the Commander Core & rear exhaust fan, use the cables I got to connect my hub to the other 3 fans, and then verify that my 6 QX fans, AIO Cooler, and single QX rear exhaust fan are all linked and showing up in iCUE so I can control fan speed, RGB, & the LCD display. May sound dumb, I know most of you guys know a lot more about working on PCs than I do, but I'm not really familiar with the components so I'd rather take it there and have them set it up. With the membership it'll be free anyway.

I briefly considered buying a newer AIO cooler, but it's cheaper to just add the Commander Core and link my existing one that way. I should have all of the functionality of the newer AIO cooler, I'll just have to incorporate a Commander Core along with the Link hub for the rest of the fans.

It's kind of a pain in the arse, and annoying as the PC is brand new, but hopefully this will take care of all of my issues. I have to be careful though browsing components, every time I'm on Amazon I'm tempted to upgrade the motherboard, AIO, and add some RAM and an additional SSD. But this system is WAY more than I need right now...I can always upgrade later on if I end up needing to.

TLDR hopefully this just needs a Commander Core and a cable or two and everything will be sorted out. *Crosses Fingers*
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:21 pm to
Canceled the Commander Core, apparently I should already have one that came with the AIO. Was told they may not have connected everything properly and I might need a powered USB hub, so I ordered one of those.

Gonna see what geek squad can do, hopefully they get it sorted out. If not, I might take it to a dedicated PC repair shop & see what they say/recommend.

This is annoyisng as hell.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77954 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Gonna see what geek squad can do


I don't think I would take my high dollar pc to Geek Squad
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22692 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Canceled the Commander Core, apparently I should already have one that came with the AIO. Was told they may not have connected everything properly and I might need a powered USB hub, so I ordered one of those.


Take a beat. I realize you want to get this thing perfect, but you'll need to do a little research before buying a bunch of stuff you don't need/can't use.

My first questions is can you call the company that built it and ask them about the connections?
Are you 100% sure you have the commander core, like did you pull the back panel off and see it?
Why did they say you needed a powered USB hub?


Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22692 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 8:08 am to
quote:

every time I'm on Amazon I'm tempted to upgrade the motherboard, AIO, and add some RAM and an additional SSD. But this system is WAY more than I need right now...I can always upgrade later on if I end up needing to.


Just looking back on your specs, you have the best available Intel CPU out right now, and your Motherboard supports all the latest except for PCIe5x4 on the M.2 slot and you don't really need that for gaming. PCIe4x4 is plenty fast enough. If you want more space then yeah, get another ssd. You have 4 total slots.

There aren't many, and by that, I mean maybe 1, upgrade that you could actually get with a new MB. Your setup is very high-end.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
1839 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:45 am to
He could "upgrade" his CPU to the 14900KS when it comes out this week.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:50 am to
quote:

My first questions is can you call the company that built it and ask them about the connections?


I've submitted a ticket with them and am waiting to hear back.

quote:

Are you 100% sure you have the commander core, like did you pull the back panel off and see it?


I haven't, guess I should check that. The poster on the Corsair support forums said it has to be there because my fans are running, lighting up, and my LCD display is working. He said those wouldn't be working without a commander core powering/controlling it.

quote:

Why did they say you needed a powered USB hub?


It was something along the lines of the connections the Corsair controllers using on the motherboard and the motherboard having a limited number of them, he thinks Cyberpower probably had to use a splitter of some kind in order to connect everything to the motherboard, but doing it that way may lead to the issues I'm experiencing.

Here's the thread on the Corsair forum:
Corsair Support Forum Thread

quote:

Take a beat. I realize you want to get this thing perfect, but you'll need to do a little research before buying a bunch of stuff you don't need/can't use.


You're right. I should probably verify that the commander core is there and then just take it to a dedicated repair shop and see if they can determine what the issue is and what I might need to remedy it.

I shut my PC down last night and when I turned it on this morning the fans lit up again, but I went into iCUE and they weren't showing up as being detected and when I clicked on the hub they're tied to the lighting stopped again.

It's just frustrating, I spent a lot on this computer. I realize a lighting issue isn't a big deal, but spending as much as I did I want everything to be working.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22692 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:14 am to
quote:

he poster on the Corsair support forums said it has to be there because my fans are running, lighting up, and my LCD display is working. He said those wouldn't be working without a commander core powering/controlling it.



This is probably accurate.

Just from my limited amount of research, it looks like the commander core and the iCUE both use USB 2.0 headers on the MB to send the data. Typically, the case's front panel would have one but the O11 XL only has 3.0 on t[he front. and your MB has two on the board. Looking at your Corsair thread, it looks like your AIO LCD uses a USB header as well. That looks like 3 total, if you remove one of the iCUE hubs and daisy chain them. The MB can support, according to Newegg, 4 more USB 2.0 so I'm not sure a hub is your solution. But keep that in your back pocket, because I'm not an expert.

ETA: After rereading this, my guess is there is a hub in your case already as you have Commander Core, AIO LCD, 2xiCUE hub (4 total needs). I might be wrong about this so grain of salt and what not.

What I would look at doing, and you may need to consult someone with more knowledge, is triple QX120 to triple QX120 to iCUE hub, AIO triple AF120 to commander core, AIO LCD to Commander Core, and Commander Core to iCUE hub. I think the iCUE can handle 14 fans.

That NZXT hub on poster listed is an internal one where it would be SATA power from your power supply, and USB2.0 cable from it to your MB header, and all the rest of the USB 2.0 would connect to it.


quote:

It's just frustrating, I spent a lot on this computer. I realize a lighting issue isn't a big deal, but spending as much as I did I want everything to be working.



And you are 100% correct. It should all work which is why you should be pounding the purchase company for answers. They should know how to get this working the correct way.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22692 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:25 am to
A couple of troubleshooting points from the Corsair thread.

Drivers. Make sure you have downloaded your motherboards drivers so all the headers work as intended.

The non-sata powered USB hub is interesting as the header may not have enough power to pull the multiple usb 2.0 needed, even though the motherboard specs say it can support up to 4 more.

I'll keep checking this thread. Its interesting to see what the solution will be.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:54 pm to
My drivers are all updated. I contacted CyberPower & spoke with tech support and they said they've been receiving news about there being software issues on Corsair's side. But they recommended I check all connections & contact them if I need a replacement part sent out, like if one of the Link Hubs or the Commander Core is bad.

So, I shut down my PC and opened it up. I can confirm that there are two Link Hubs and the Commander Core present. Everything seemed to be plugged in...although I couldn't really follow connections from the back side of the PC to the front side where everything is plugged into the motherboard as there are so many cables & I didn't want to go unplugging or possibly damaging things when I don't know exactly what I'm looking for.

I did unplug the Link cable at the top of the 3 side fans, which are the ones that weren't lighting up, and plugged it back in. I then closed the case and powered the PC back up and the fans are not lit up and detected in iCUE, showing as linked to the 2nd Link Hub. I can adjust fan speed and lighting effects now.

Hopefully they don't stop working again. But that now leaves me with the issue of my AIO cooler, and it turns out its actually the H170i Elite LCD XT so a 420mm radiator, not showing up in iCUE, which means I can't control the fan speeds, RGB effects, or LCD display. On one hand, it's nice that the other 3 fans are working, but now I need to figure out how to get functionality with my AIO. I won't be able to sync the lighting of my case if I can't adjust the AIO fans, which default to a rainbow-like pattern.

But, I'm at a loss as to what to do next. I do need to take the damn PC back out so I can get some glass cleaner/residue remover and wipe down the glass panels which have a couple of smudges on them. A fun thing I discovered is that when I sent my PC in to CyberPower previously they didn't fully screw in the panel cover of my SSD, and judging by the rattle I'm assuming it's in the bottom of the case somewhere, but I couldn't find it. So, I used one of the top screws for the side panel to screw that in for the meantime.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22692 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:32 pm to
Here is a video of how the commander core xt is connected.

Youtube.

It may give you some insight on how it is/should be connected. From the video, it has a usb header and sata power. The rest are fan controls and rgb, along with temp probes.

If you can trace the sata and usb header cables to see where they are connected, you can check if it goes to a hub. Did you happen to see a usb hub in there? It seems like it is powered if you are getting power to the pump header and fans, being that they are spinning and lighting up. Also, if your pump wasn't working then it would probably overheat and shut down. My suspicion is either a usb header issue or software.

I say usb header because you need 4 spots (lcd screen, commander core xt, 2 iCue hubs. They have to be split somewhere or they just aren't connected.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:54 pm to
Thanks, I'll check the video out. Should it be the same, since I have a commander core and not the xt?

When you say USB hub, is that a separate component or do you mean a hub on the actual motherboard?

I'll try to open it up and take some photos the next time I open the case up. I'm assuming the LCD screen and commander core are connected and powered, because the LCD screen does show the temp and the fans are lit and running. I don't understand why iCUE isn't picking it up.

There was a cable coming from the bottom that looked like it had between 6-8 pin slots on it that wasn't plugged into anything, wasn't sure what that was.

Another side note, I bought a Lian RGB cable that plugs into the motherboard and apparently it's attached to a Lian Li controller, I saw that for the first time when I opened the back of the case. Before I sent the PC in that cable was lit up with RGB lights, but since getting it back it hasn't been lighting up either. That dawned on me as I was opening the case. Wonder if that got unplugged somehow, too.

I wonder if I should try unplugging the commander core and then reattaching all of the cables to see if it'll get detected when I start the PC back up? Worked for the QX fans, but I doubt the AIO is going to be that simple.

Part of me is tempted to just buy the updated cooler that runs off of a Link Hub...I would think/hope iCUE wouldn't have issues picking it up then. But I'm managing my "frick it, I'm swapping it out" drive as best as I can. I mean, a commander core should be enough to have iCUE detect it, there has to be an issue somewhere with how it's set up.

ETA: You mentioning the need for the 4 header slots (LCD screen, Commander Core, 2 Link Hubs), would it be worth trying that external powered USB hub that I bought? If I can find out which cables are for the LCD & AIO fans try plugging them into the external hub and see if that does anything? Just tossing it out there, because it seems like I am running (possibly) more components than my Mobo has headers for, so maybe they split the AIO and the splitter is causing the issue?
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 3:58 pm
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