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Posted on 4/12/22 at 4:43 pm to Kodar
Yeah I meant it literally. Not an insult just I want speaking vaguely. The story IS THERE in Sekiro. It’s almost overt I would say. If no one told you there’s not much to think FromSoft made it other than how hard it is. It’s just not a good story imo. The excuse they build for every game about how you die and come back was the worst ever. Dragon rot is just kind of a thing but people never die or never get more than bad cold if you don’t do anything. The story is told it’s just not their best work. Now the game itself is impressive. Some of bosses and set pieces are insane. They actually used mini bosses well something FromSoft hasnt been great at. But the game is fricking brutal man. And they wanted it to be clearly how there’s not near as many ways to make it easier you truly must get good and learn untold things about combat to make it easier but the right way. I like the game I just see how many could hate it
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 4:48 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Man that was seriously the most impressive thing gaming will ever see. At their absolute high square would put out maybe 3 game in one year and all be smash hits
Some have speculated a silver age from SE is on the horizon but I’m mega hesitant with their embrace of NFTs
Some have speculated a silver age from SE is on the horizon but I’m mega hesitant with their embrace of NFTs
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 5:50 pm to musick
From's run is one of the best in modern history.
Valve is up there too in the late 90s through the 2000s.
Half-life
Half-life 2
Portal
Portal 2
The half-life 2 episodes
That's just their single player games. That doesn't count counterstrike, GO, TF2, dota2, Left 4 Dead
I know some of these games, most of them, were acquired in some form and not original other than L4D, but they did all of them justice.
Valve is up there too in the late 90s through the 2000s.
Half-life
Half-life 2
Portal
Portal 2
The half-life 2 episodes
That's just their single player games. That doesn't count counterstrike, GO, TF2, dota2, Left 4 Dead
I know some of these games, most of them, were acquired in some form and not original other than L4D, but they did all of them justice.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 5:57 pm to td01241
I thought the Sekiro story was perfect. It did a great job of introducing villains, and there was a different antagonist at different points. The narrative relaxes about a third of the way through the entire mid section and your goal shifts, then in the last third it changes again. I thought it had a brilliant flow to it.
On top of that, it felt like such a complete story. Every character had a fitting conclusion. There were no loose ends. It also had 4 interesting endings. It's the only fromsoft game, to me, that felt perfectly complete to where I didn't need a DLC.
It's not some kind of ground breaking narrative or anything, but it just felt so complete and satisfying.
On top of that, it felt like such a complete story. Every character had a fitting conclusion. There were no loose ends. It also had 4 interesting endings. It's the only fromsoft game, to me, that felt perfectly complete to where I didn't need a DLC.
It's not some kind of ground breaking narrative or anything, but it just felt so complete and satisfying.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 6:37 pm to DrSteveBrule
I will give you the endings are awesome and by way of how you achieve them(the actions you have to take) and how they fit with the story are excellent. By far my favorite part. My biggest issue isn’t with anything you listed. It’s probably what most would consist minor maybe but I gave one example. Dragon rot. We are sort of Told what it is and we are the cause. We are told it is TERRIBLE Ebola on aids. But you can die and Rez and never give frick since its reward for not having it isn’t great and the cures are somewhat rare. Go the whole game and don’t care worst anyone gets is a medium cough. It’s just not usual of FromSoft to have these kinds of things
I admit it does satisfy. Me especially the evil ending. You have to kill Emma. My cannon is you always resented how your were claimed off a field of war and were driven to take everything
Also I think my initial post wasn’t put into proper context. I don’t think it’s bad overall in gaming but for who made it
I admit it does satisfy. Me especially the evil ending. You have to kill Emma. My cannon is you always resented how your were claimed off a field of war and were driven to take everything
Also I think my initial post wasn’t put into proper context. I don’t think it’s bad overall in gaming but for who made it
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Posted on 4/12/22 at 6:51 pm to Kodar
Also people far overplay the FromSoft stories are soooo abstract no one knows what’s happening you have to read 1000 page of wiki and that’s simply not true. Yes a lot of stuff and great parts that are adjacent or more must be found and the community around these games is amazing they will and have found it for you just read it in the wiki. The main story isn’t that hard. Enough is given to know who are you, why you’re there, and what you’re set to. Some provide why for you better than others. I mean ffs Bloodbourne is not hard yo understand at all if you just listen
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Posted on 4/13/22 at 8:44 am to td01241
Whosever downvoted this come here and explain yourself. Yeah FromSoft doesn’t give you your night night book such as games including FF, stuff like Ghost of Tsushima, Etc. Stuff I love btw many are my favorite .It wants to create the experience youre not much more than an outsider in a new land. Bloodbourne literally used this as the concept. So a lot of what transpired 200 years ago to untimely cause the cosmos’s to lead to the events you’re playing don’t really neeed 5 mjn cut scenes. The info is still there. And it’s been found, catalogued by so many identifications and no more welcoming and opening gaming community exists.
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Posted on 4/13/22 at 9:50 am to td01241
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Whosever downvoted this come here and explain yourself.
It was probably someone who just hasn't gone and got gud
Posted on 4/13/22 at 9:53 am to td01241
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Whosever downvoted this come here and explain yourself
I don't like FromSoft games. It's that simple. I don't like their style of gameplay, and I don't like their style of storytelling. It just doesn't do it for ME.
You like it. Many like it. Good for you.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 9:54 am
Posted on 4/13/22 at 9:54 am to SG_Geaux
You can dislike something but not represent what it actually is and does wrong
Posted on 4/13/22 at 9:57 am to ShootingsBricks4Life
In terms of what I’m talking about getin gud has never been easier than checking the wiki. I understand people who don’t like the style of play it is niche, but this ethos that somehow has been lied into the world enough it’s the 11th commandment; that FromSoft games story of what is happening in the game isn’t clear, no one tells you anything, etc. it’s a lie
Posted on 4/13/22 at 10:00 am to td01241
quote:I haven't played BB, so setting that aside for the moment:
Also people far overplay the FromSoft stories are soooo abstract no one knows what’s happening you have to read 1000 page of wiki and that’s simply not true. Yes a lot of stuff and great parts that are adjacent or more must be found and the community around these games is amazing they will and have found it for you just read it in the wiki. The main story isn’t that hard. Enough is given to know who are you, why you’re there, and what you’re set to. Some provide why for you better than others. I mean ffs Bloodbourne is not hard yo understand at all if you just listen
The games are absolutely that abstracted. Otherwise, it's just plot hole central. What DS does is generally called bad writing in the overwhelming majority of mediums and for a reason. There is too much focus on trying to make what From did look like something unique and interesting when all they did was give no coherent narrative that is remotely well written.
An analogy if you will: If storytelling represents a house and lore represents the foundation, From has done a wonderful job with the foundation. Then, depending on how you look at it anyway, they left the foundation as it is with no house, or slapped a rickety shack that's liable to fall apart due to a stiff breeze.
I say this as a completionist who goes out of his way to take note of dialogue and avoid missing things. The DS series is the only series I can think of with a narrative this absent or poorly written.
Edit: To give another way to look at it, imagine you just watched a movie, and you have to wait until after the credits for some random guy outside the theatre to explain the movie to you because the movie did not do any of that. That's the DS series in a nutshell.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/13/22 at 10:05 am to Kodar
Honestly I treat all these games like I did when I played the NES growing up. Sometimes I don't care about the story but I just want to keep being challenged at each next stop.
If I want to dig in...I do...same with the NES days. That's actually why I really like these games...brings me back. Also made me realize that some people nowadays wouldn't have been gamers if they were raised in those gaming days....it was purposely impossible at times haha
If I want to dig in...I do...same with the NES days. That's actually why I really like these games...brings me back. Also made me realize that some people nowadays wouldn't have been gamers if they were raised in those gaming days....it was purposely impossible at times haha
Posted on 4/13/22 at 10:06 am to Kodar
It’s not. I mean do you want me to run down one of the game’s and tell you each time the person or place of snake or god or whatever you’re talking to points you to your objective, you’ve been told you’re overall objective already, you know before the game ever starts where the concept of souls came from humans are what they are, how they can die and come back. You know how they fought a war and even major details about it. You discover it’s all gone and merely an illusion remains, you’re again clearly presented with two paths two choices you I know exactly what you need yo do to get yo the kiln and either link or not. Now you might not know the entire big picture behind it even though it’s out there but you don’t need to. You’re nothing.‘you’re not even close to the first person to try what you’re doing. Anyway eventually you are explained pretty well truly and have been told and shown visual outcomes of those who frick with the flame, so you can relight it or bring the age of dark.
All of that is easily knowable and much more without a single bit of item digging. BB is way easier and more to write
All of that is easily knowable and much more without a single bit of item digging. BB is way easier and more to write
Posted on 4/13/22 at 10:13 am to Kodar
Serious question not being a dick did you talk to all the NPCs? Take in things around you knowing the flame Isngoing our? Did you do any side quest that build the world out? Or did you just kinda die at the undead burg? And get pissed because the game has no 15 min of cutscene before you fight anything. I’m not being an a-hole I enjoy those things too.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 10:25 am to Kodar
And again I vehemently disagree. From did give the people something at least unique and fresh to what we have seen. They actively bucked every trend all studios chased. Make games easier, needs to be like a movie, etc. They were unique in Dark Souls and still are today code vein is the best souls rip off. They tell you the story you need to know to understand why your playable guy is killing this guy. Usually a good bit of the reason behind it. Typically always some type of choice to make or a more direct moral message. How many games consistently take nobodies and make them like in dark souls. What you’re is lacking is there it just needs to be found.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 10:26 am
Posted on 4/13/22 at 10:31 am to td01241
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It’s not. I mean do you want me to run down one of the game’s and tell you each time the person or place of snake or god or whatever you’re talking to points you to your objective, you’ve been told you’re overall objective already, you know before the game ever starts where the concept of souls came from humans are what they are, how they can die and come back. You know how they fought a war and even major details about it. You discover it’s all gone and merely an illusion remains, you’re again clearly presented with two paths two choices you I know exactly what you need yo do to get yo the kiln and either link or not. Now you might not know the entire big picture behind it even though it’s out there but you don’t need to. You’re nothing.‘you’re not even close to the first person to try what you’re doing. Anyway eventually you are explained pretty well truly and have been told and shown visual outcomes of those who frick with the flame, so you can relight it or bring the age of dark.
All of that is easily knowable and much more without a single bit of item digging. BB is way easier and more to write
I would liken trying to follow a souls game narrative to trying to read, follow, and interpret your posts. It's mostly an incoherent jumbled mess.
And this coming from someone who absolutely loves the games and has no issue with the way the narrative and lore is presented. I enjoy uncovering bits and pieces along the way, but also understand why others get frustrated by it.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 10:35 am to VinegarStrokes
I type mostly on iPhone 7 that’s showing it’s age. The keys can’t keep up with text speed and words get fricked up. But in the quote you laid out should I have just gave him the plot in novella form names places encounters important people who died where etc?my point was the story is told to you if “talking to npcs” is a problem the you need a more Sony game. Which again nothing wrong with some of faves are. And I’ll buy a new phone to help you out
I will acknowledge many reasons that are reasonable and maybe merit to them for not liking the style. But “omg no sorry is given it’s all so confusing and no one knows anything about what they’re doing” is a flat out lie
I will acknowledge many reasons that are reasonable and maybe merit to them for not liking the style. But “omg no sorry is given it’s all so confusing and no one knows anything about what they’re doing” is a flat out lie
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 10:39 am
Posted on 4/13/22 at 11:22 am to td01241
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You can dislike something but not represent what it actually is and does wrong
I have no idea WTF this means
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