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Casual vs. Hardcore Players

Posted on 4/7/12 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77498 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 3:24 pm
Is it possible to achieve a successful balance?

This problem seems to have become even more apparent with the release of certain games recently. Mass Effect is a good example where they took a RPG and reduced its RPG elements so more casual players could play.

(This is not a ME argument thread, keep that shite out of here)

The Halo series is another good example. As the series advanced, the MP was altered for the casual branch of video gamers.

Is it possible to have a successful balance between the two?
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38838 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 3:34 pm to
Yes but the market has been getting away from it imo. I'm a casual gamer and hardly ever play online, ME3 being the first multiplayer I've really played. I have to buy RPG type games just to get my money's worth. I'm certainly not going to get a first person shooter where the campaign is worth $60. The last FPS games that had real good campaigns for people like me were Halo and MW1.
Posted by hypnos
Member since Dec 2009
2227 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 4:39 pm to
Add difficulty levels. Heroic dungeons in wow were way harder than normal ones. Gold in ME3 is way harder than Bronze.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15425 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 6:49 pm to
No, it is not possible to bridge the gap. I'm thankful for things like KickStarter where Wasteland 2 is being developed for players like myself and not those interested only in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4843 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 7:27 pm to
Hardcore players would own casual players anyday...
Posted by Vood
Member since Dec 2007
8617 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

Is it possible to have a successful balance between the two?



It is not possible due to Money. Most, not all of the hardcore players are males 13-24 and still in college. Once they get past these years they still want to play these games and to make sure games make it these days the content has to be made more accessible to them once they are out of college on the dating scene and trying to start a family.

The people with the most money are usually the Casual players due to life so the companies have to make their product attractive to them. So by doing this you piss off a good bit of the hardcore players and the casual players are still casual.

Yes I know there are exceptions to this but the rule is younger males = Hardcore gamers.




This post was edited on 4/7/12 at 7:57 pm
Posted by CornDogCologne
Mental Defective
Member since Nov 2007
8938 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 9:39 pm to
I am definitely becoming more casual as I get older.

I still appreciate depth, but I don't have the time to grind through shite like I used to. I don't mind complexity so long as things aren't overly complicated solely to increase the length of the game.

This post was edited on 4/7/12 at 9:40 pm
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15425 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 9:40 pm to
Gaming is a young mans sport, best get moving along.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42359 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

It is not possible due to Money. Most, not all of the hardcore players are males 13-24 and still in college. Once they get past these years they still want to play these games and to make sure games make it these days the content has to be made more accessible to them once they are out of college on the dating scene and trying to start a family.

Hardcore gamers don't date or start families.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15425 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:28 am to
This will help separate the differences.

Posted by Wolfpacleader
Member since Jun 2011
1119 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:34 am to
quote:

he Halo series is another good example. As the series advanced, the MP was altered for the casual branch of video gamers.

Yeah, and the hardcore community hates reach, and the general consensus(among hardcore halo players) is that halo 3 is worse than 1 or 2.
It is rather hard to appeal a game to both groups, but there are far more casual gamers, and always will be more, so most games are going to cater to them.
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4843 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:23 am to
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:35 am to
Same here man. I gotta full time job, wife and a son. Takes me almost a year to play through a game. Ive been playing Red Dead Redemption since November and I still got Arkham City after that, so I'm set for a while. Games like Skyrim would take me over 2 years.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27168 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:12 pm to
"Hardcore" is some made up term that G4TV beats into the head of the gaming community to make them think they are such.
Posted by CornDogCologne
Mental Defective
Member since Nov 2007
8938 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:22 pm to
The types of gamers that self apply the term hardcore aren't exactly the group of people I want to be lumped in with.
This post was edited on 4/8/12 at 5:23 pm
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15425 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:07 pm to
Too late, you already played Dark Souls therefore you are hardcore. Deal with it.
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