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re: Anonymous Xbox engineer explains DRM and Microsoft's Xbox One intentions

Posted on 6/14/13 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 3:43 pm to
COD MW3 on there 2 times. stupid
Posted by skullhawk
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 3:43 pm to
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COD MW3 on there 2 times


purchased twice to show support
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by brucevilanch
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 4:11 pm to
Lol ISWYDT
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 4:12 pm to
Because it relates somewhat. LINK
Posted by brucevilanch
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 4:24 pm to
Right...
Posted by taylork37
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 4:33 pm to
I like this quote.

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I utterly defy you to convince me Resident Evil 6 nearly selling six million copies yet still failing to meet expectations could be blamed upon the used game market. When you're selling that much, and still failing to make investors happy, something is fundamentally wrong with the process of videogame production itself, not the imaginary dragons of used games and game rentals that are conjured up as quick and easy scapegoats.
Posted by tehchampion140
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 4:35 pm to
That article is just awful IMO.
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Look at Call of Duty. Arguably the biggest of the big when it comes to gaming. A veritable powerhouse of profit that tends to be the biggest selling title of any given year. Yet, visually, it's always a step behind its peers. Infinity Ward and Treyarch have successfully mined years of cash out of the same game engine this entire generation, producing games noticeable less graphically intense than the competition, yet trouncing the pretenders at market every single bloody time.

Even its "next-gen" title, Call of Duty: Ghosts, is running off an enhanced version of the same old engine, and I bet it turns a very healthy profit regardless.

If keeping used games means every series turns into a stale CoD rehashing then please for the love of God take away all used games.
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Then we have the PC. A platform famed for being able to produce better graphics than the Xbox 360 and PS3 ever could, and yet let's look at some of its biggest success stories. Minecraft. Terraria. Hell, Valve and its antique Source Engine seem to be doing just fine, producing games people are absolutely excited for and love to play, despite being nowhere near as expensive to produce or graphically shiny as the Battlefields and the Tomb Raiders of the world.

Some games need to look really pretty, though. I don't know about you, but I think that skyscraper falling in BF4 multiplayer wouldn't be quite as impressive if the game looked like Minecraft. It would also be hard to make good story-intensive games like The Last of Us if they're trying to convey real emotions through blocky characters and landscapes.

The author also doesn't give any real solution. He's just demanding that they figure out how to cut corners so he can keep buying used games.
Posted by brucevilanch
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 4:42 pm to
Those games that he mentioned in the last quote are also really cheap games to buy. That doesn't make any difference though.
Posted by tehchampion140
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 4:49 pm to
It's inevitable that games will cost more as they get more advanced. I'd much rather have games progress and become more and more realistic instead of them cutting things out so I can buy used games. And just like stout has been saying, if the loss of money from the trade and lending of games is eliminated, much like it is on Steam, then developers can afford to put their games out at cheaper prices while still being able to put a lot of money into them to make better and better products.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 4:50 pm
Posted by brucevilanch
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 4:59 pm to
What about free to play? If the game is worth a shite then people will by things like expansions/nonsense. Team fortress 2 and Planet side 2 is doing pretty well.
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 5:05 pm to
makes me wonder if MS has any "league of legend" type titles in the works for down the pipeline with this digital distrobution method.

meaning, a real popular and fun game that is free2play and download, but then you can pay $$$ for in game enhancements.

Lot of LOL players i know have spent way more than just $60

Im sure theyd love to get in on this action.
Posted by brucevilanch
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 5:11 pm to
Valve has said many times that they've made more money off of TF2 from selling user made hats and trinkets(users who made said hats and trinkets also make a percentage of money from them) then they ever could have off of selling it as a game.
Posted by tehchampion140
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 5:11 pm to
It's pretty impressive that they can make enough money while giving the game itself for free just on DLC alone. It'll pretty much only work on multiplayer games that have tons of replayability, though. Games like The Last of Us or GTA would never be successful as a free-to-play game.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 5:16 pm to
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users who made said hats and trinkets also make a percentage of money from them


Valve has paid out $10 million to it's users in commission for this stuff just on TF2.
Posted by brucevilanch
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 5:44 pm to
Yep, thats so awesome.I'm going to try and get back on topic.

Does anyone question the validity of this "engineer"? Some of the language is immature for someone who is trying to represent a company. I curse, A LOT, but I would never use that type of language while trying to represent my company in a professional manner even with anonymity. Is there an actual confirmation at all at who this guy is?

Most of what he's talking about has been discussed ad nauseum on the internet and there's nothing in any of his statements that proves anything otherwise.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 5:47 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 5:49 pm to
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Some of the language is immature for someone who is trying to represent a company. I curse, A LOT, but I would never use that type of language while trying to represent my company in a professional manner even with anonymity


He was on 4chan, man.
Posted by brucevilanch
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 5:53 pm to
I figured it was 4chan or reddit. Why wouldn't he go to a legit tech news source instead of 4chan? Makes it even more suspicious IMO.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 5:57 pm to
Maybe he was cruising 4Chan chilling at home and checked out /b/ while he was there. That's where it came from and it happened at night. He jumped in a thread so it's not like he was doing it on official capacity or something.
Posted by Blitzed
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 5:58 pm to
So the whole article is basically backing what we were speculating?
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 5:58 pm
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