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re: You can bring wine to a restaurant?

Posted on 11/13/17 at 7:16 pm to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 7:16 pm to
Ygm
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 7:41 pm to
in TX, you can BYOB if and only if the restaurant does not have a liquor license.

some (very few) have a corkage fee as that would keep some customers away and MOST of them are new restaurants.

those who are after $$$ know they make much more with a liquor license, or at least a beer/wine license.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:02 pm to
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in TX, you can BYOB if and only if the restaurant does not have a liquor license. some (very few) have a corkage fee as that would keep some customers away and MOST of them are new restaurants.


I don’t get it.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:15 pm to
If they don’t have a license, you can byob

Most don’t have a corkage fee because that would make people not want to go.

New restaurants are byob because they might not have their license yet.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:43 pm to
In TX BYOB restaurants are usually startups who can not afford the license, or may be in a DRY area (still some of those) ...some even have to operate as "private" clubs"

HAVING A WINE/LIQUOR LICENSE + OR - $ 1500-$2000, LIQUOR LICENSE $ 3500-$4000 .. i HAVE NOT SEEN THE EXACT AMOUNTS IN A WHILE.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:47 pm to
I'm with you on this one. Malbec? Carmenere? Blend?
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:52 pm to
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in TX, you can BYOB if and only if the restaurant does not have a liquor license.


I've been to several restaurants in various cities in Texas where someone in our party brought wine in restaurants that have liquor licenses.
Posted by WacoTiger
Waco, Texas
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:12 pm to
It is illegal to bring liquor onto a premises in Texas that has a private club license or mixed beverage permit. If the restaurant allowed it and had a mixed beverage or private club license, it was in violation of Texas law. If a restaurant does not have a private club or mixed beverage permit or if it has a beer/wine permit (no distilled spirits), you can bring wine onto the premises if the owner allows it.

This is direct from the TABC website:
quote:

It is ILLEGAL to take any alcoholic beverage into a restaurant/bar that has a private club permit or a mixed beverage permit (distilled spirits in addition to beer/wine). You can't leave with an alcoholic beverage, unless it is a malt beverage produced by a brewpub, or you are leaving with a bottle of wine you bought with a meal and did not finish. Section 28.10 of the Alcoholic Beverage Code says, "A mixed beverage permittee may not permit any person to take any alcoholic beverage purchased on the licensed premises from the premises where sold, except that a person who orders wine with food and has a portion of the open container remaining may remove the open container of wine from the premises."

It is LEGAL to take alcoholic beverages into or out of a restaurant/bar that has a beer/wine permit (no distilled spirits), or an establishment that does not have a permit to sell alcohol. However, the business may have their own rules against it. If the business allows you to bring your own alcoholic beverages onto their premises, it is legal for them to charge you a fee. It is often referred to as a "corkage fee," especially when it refers to a bottle of wine brought into a restaurant. Some bars also sell "set ups" which refers to cups of ice or soda that the customer buys and mixes with their own distilled spirits.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:18 pm to
Malbec is the current favorite.

Though a cassilero del Diablo merlot is still my go to cheap red.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18966 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 6:24 am to
Try Root 1 for for a good $10 bottle. They're S. American.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 6:26 am to
But you said that you can bring your own if and only if they don’t have a license. Is this actually true?

Also, do you mean it’s only the places that don’t have a license that may have a corkage fee? If so, why would that be the case? If not, that contradicts your first statement.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58926 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 6:27 am to
Thanks for posting, Waco. That makes more sense. Seems a little restrictive for freedom loving Texas though.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 6:44 am to
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Why buy a bottle from them? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of avoiding paying $35 for a $12 bottle?


if you like the restaurant and want to support it you buy their wine. Alcohol sales is a large part of their profit margin. As others have said, either paying a corkage fee or buying a bottle from them is an acceptable alternative.

We on rare occasion bring a bottle, last one being to Bayona for my birthday. But, our non-wine purchases made up for the bottle we brought and did not get charged a corkage fee.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 6:45 am
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 6:49 am to
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if you like the restaurant and want to support it you buy their wine. Alcohol sales is a large part of their profit margin. As others have said, either paying a corkage fee or buying a bottle from them is an acceptable alternative.


Yep.

We rarely bring our own wine, and when we do, it's something pretty damn special.

In that event, we'll buy a bottle of sparkling and/or white from their list while the red that we brought is in the decanter. Always offer a taste of mine to the somm and chef.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48859 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 6:50 am to
Well I guess I'm an outlaw. I would hate to explain that charge while sitting in jail.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 7:16 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 7:27 am to
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Seems a little restrictive for freedom loving Texas though.


I fricking hate our alcohol laws.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58926 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 8:25 am to
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I fricking hate our alcohol laws


Believe me, Texas isn’t the only one that suffers from this. NJ sucks too.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 8:26 am
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:22 am to
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You can bring your own beer too


That's exactly what I do.

Nothing screams class more than strolling into Red Lobster with a 12 pack of Natty Light.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:56 pm to
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And I didn't realize how high the corkage fee was until I read up on it.


I thought $10 was the standard unless you were going to an extremely fancy place.
Posted by Mr Mom
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
796 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 8:44 pm to
Three restaurants in BR i know for sure will let you bring a bottle of wine are Ninos, Ruffinos, and Ruth’s. We always bring a bottle, but nothing on their wine list. Also, we usually have cocktails while we look at the menu. Sometimes we get a corkage fee at Ruffinos but not the other places. I never complain about it. Also, i usually share a taste with the waiter or sommelier.
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