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re: Wine: What are you drinking?
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:25 am to USMCTIGER1970
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:25 am to USMCTIGER1970
quote:Mostly messing with you, but your double Caymus selections say "rich and uninterested"
And what would you recommend? Since you find Caymus boring LOL!
It's like going to Vail or Aspen because you can afford it and you know what your gonna get, but Telluride or Keystone might just spice things up a bit.
I wish I had that problem

This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 9:27 am
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:39 am to Pettifogger
Knowing very little about wine other than "like it" or "don't like it", I did notice last night Belle Glos was a bit much for me.
When I've had Caymus, it was way too much for me. Especially since it followed a bottle of 2015 Quilceda Creek cab that I was in love with.
I feel the same with Conundrum. People love it, and I used to as well, but I don't like it nearly as much anymore. Its too in your face.
Yes! Nailed it. I loved it and Belle Glos and Conundrum, and now I don’t like it. But I’ve also almost entirely left beer behind and drink wine very often now.
When I've had Caymus, it was way too much for me. Especially since it followed a bottle of 2015 Quilceda Creek cab that I was in love with.
I feel the same with Conundrum. People love it, and I used to as well, but I don't like it nearly as much anymore. Its too in your face.
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People drink Caymus because to a lot of people who don't spend much time on wine, it tastes really good. Over time, those same people may move past it.
Yes! Nailed it. I loved it and Belle Glos and Conundrum, and now I don’t like it. But I’ve also almost entirely left beer behind and drink wine very often now.
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:44 am to Pettifogger
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People drink Caymus because to a lot of people who don't spend much time on wine, it tastes really good. Over time, those same people may move past it.
I drink a lot of wine I just prefer Caymus LOL! I also drink a lot of frank Family Vineyards Cab and The Prisoner Red Blend.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:56 am to USMCTIGER1970
Nothing wrong with whatever anyone likes to drink, but if you like Caymus and those big reds like Prisoner, and what to jump off from there, next time try some Bordeaux or maybe a Rhone blend.
Im really starting to get into Bordeaux. Hardly anyone drinks it or talks about it outside the big classified growths, but I've found there are some great values and interesting wines for all tastes and budgets. Plus you can try left bank v right bank blends and see which ones meet your fancy.
Im really starting to get into Bordeaux. Hardly anyone drinks it or talks about it outside the big classified growths, but I've found there are some great values and interesting wines for all tastes and budgets. Plus you can try left bank v right bank blends and see which ones meet your fancy.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:57 am to USMCTIGER1970
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I drink a lot of wine I just prefer Caymus LOL! I also drink a lot of frank Family Vineyards Cab and The Prisoner Red Blend.
Nothing wrong with it. In a thread like this, with a lot of casual wine drinkers (again, not a snob comment, being casual about wine is probably the more sensible choice), it's probably misplaced to attack Caymus.
Now, if you're in tasting group or something and someone is telling you Caymus is the best wine on earth, that person is going to get ridiculed and rightly so.
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:00 am to BlackenedOut
I moved into bdx because I can't afford burgundy but wanted to to develop a palate for something old world
Now i've moved into rioja because I can't afford bordeaux
I'll be drinking out of a box before long at this rate
Now i've moved into rioja because I can't afford bordeaux
I'll be drinking out of a box before long at this rate
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:07 am to USMCTIGER1970
quote:Can't go wrong there either. I'd add Rombauer to that list as well.
I also drink a lot of frank Family Vineyards Cab
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:13 am to Pettifogger
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Now i've moved into rioja because I can't afford bordeaux
Go to Chile. Old world flavor at new world price.
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People drink Caymus because to a lot of people who don't spend much time on wine, it tastes really good. Over time, those same people may move past it.
Same applies to stuff like Orin Swift. They aren't bad wines by any means, but as you drink more old world stuff, you realize great wine doesn't have to be an explosion of red fruit in your mouth.
The first time you compare a berry bomb like Freakshow cab (still good) to a similarly priced BDX like the Legende line from Rothschild and realize Cabernet doesn't have to be this massively heavy mouthfeel, the game changes.

Sangiovese is the GOAT grape though. Light to medium body, deliciously bright red fruit, and just a perfect tartness that lingers after the finish. Drink a nice 2010 Brunello next to that Caymus and you'd almost think you had a glass of wine and a glass of grape juice.

This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 11:16 am
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:15 am to Pettifogger
Somebody can correct me on this but you can find a ton of American and South American cabs that are heavy on Cab Sav and Franc and that's going to be similar to bdx obviously a step down in quality with the price.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:23 am to TH03
quote:I know at least this much
Sangiovese is the GOAT grape though. Light to medium body, deliciously bright red fruit, and just a perfect tartness that lingers after the finish.

Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:24 am to TH03
quote:On deck for Friday night. Unsure of the year though.
Drink a nice 2010 Barolo
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:27 am to wutangfinancial
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Somebody can correct me on this but you can find a ton of American and South American cabs that are heavy on Cab Sav and Franc and that's going to be similar to bdx obviously a step down in quality with the price.
I sample a fair amount of CA cabs and bdx style blends and I find most pretty lackluster. And those that are decent tend to rival bdx in price (with no significant upgrade in quality). There are certainly some outliers - and I usually have some Ridge and Heitz.
As for SA, I know it's there I just struggle to find it. But I'm trying, and I'm trying to learn more about regions in SA to have a better idea what might be more promising for me. I've had decent luck with several of the Clos Apalta offerings lately.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:30 am to TH03
quote:
Sangiovese is the GOAT grape though. Light to medium body, deliciously bright red fruit, and just a perfect tartness that lingers after the finish. Drink a nice 2010 Barolo next to that Caymus and you'd almost think you had a glass of wine and a glass of grape juice.
bruh
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:35 am to wutangfinancial
quote:
that's going to be similar to bdx obviously a step down in quality with the price.
But the important part is that the step down in price is bigger than the step down in quality. :coco2:
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:39 am to TH03
quote:Pretty basic question, but why is Sangiovese so hard to find in your typically grocery store? There may be a few bottles in a store that "specializes" in wine.
TH03
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:47 am to TH03

but isn't barolo...
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:53 am to Pettifogger
Can you not find a decent barolo in a large liquor store?
Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:16 am to Pettifogger
Oh God I'm fricking retarded.
Obviously talking brunello.

Obviously talking brunello.

Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:18 am to LouisianaLady
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Yes! Nailed it. I loved it and Belle Glos and Conundrum, and now I don’t like it. But I’ve also almost entirely left beer behind and drink wine very often now.
And your palate will continue to evolve with:
1) time
2) research
Good news/bad news: You're going to start to really enjoy the smaller nuances of wine and narrow down grapes/styles/regions/vintage that you like, but it's typically more expensive and harder to source.
And, you don't go backwards--this is a one-way flight.

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